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Sirkickyass said:
I think you might want to look at the post again. It was in no way about the quality of musical genres.
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"For example, a black rapper that spouts racist slurs all throughout his " music" and then if a white person uses the same words he is offended, angry, and wishes/ threatens revenge. "

Rapper indicates that he talking about rap, which he then calls "music".

To me, that does not indicate that white rap is good rap, but black rap is bad, he's just saying that rap isn't music.
 
Kicky obviously has his own point of view with this regardless of what I intended to say. He is heavily implying that because I don't like rap music I must be a racist... which is totally and utterly absurd. It's like saying I hate Europeans if I'm not into classical symphony. Those things do not have mutually exclusive relationships.

I have tried my best to clarify myself, but I'm just getting veiled punches back.

Let me be clear about one thing: I hold no animosity towards blacks/african americans/whatever-the-PC-terminology-these-days purely by the color of their skin. I associate on a daily basis with people from many different cultural/racial backgrounds and I can call many of them my friends regardless of their affiliations on that level.

If anyone here wants to try and label me somehow, go right ahead, I don't answer to you.
 
RobDMB said:
C'mon, stop putting words in my mouth. Revealed myself as what, exactly? Does musical taste make me a racist or bigot? I simply don't like listening to rap. The sounds, the subject matter, the simplicity of the musical structure (i.e. sampling other musicians because you don't have the skill to play an instrument yourself), etc. How can you assume anything about my heritage based purely on my preference of music? All kinds of "races" produce rap music. How do you know that my exposure to rap is not primarily referring to Russian rap? or any other nation's rap?
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If anything, you've revealed yourself as ignorant. Your example for 'simplicity of the musical structure' is hilarious to me. I will explain why, and in turn hope to alleviate your ignorance on this particular subject.

I'll let you do your own reading and research on the origin of Hip-Hop, but the act of rapping over beatboxing or samples/loops isn't for lack of skill to play an instrument but because the artists couldn't afford the instruments so they used their bodies.
 
HighlandHomie said:
If anything, you've revealed yourself as ignorant. Your example for 'simplicity of the musical structure' is hilarious to me. I will explain why, and in turn hope to alleviate your ignorance on this particular subject.

I'll let you do your own reading and research on the origin of Hip-Hop, but the act of rapping over beatboxing or samples/loops isn't for lack of skill to play an instrument but because the artists couldn't afford the instruments so they used their bodies.
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Duly noted, thank you for your informative reply. It doesn't change my opinion of rap (as something to listen to), but it does tell me something that I didn't know before. :)
 
RobDMB said:

Let me be clear about one thing: I hold no animosity towards blacks/african americans/whatever-the-PC-terminology-these-days purely by the color of their skin. I associate on a daily basis with people from many different cultural/racial backgrounds and I can call many of them my friends regardless of their affiliations on that level.

If anyone here wants to try and label me somehow, go right ahead, I don't answer to you.
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The fact you had to qualify all the reasons you're not consciously prejudice to others with a different background than you reveals plenty about your subconscious (your true you). Sarcastically jabbing at labels (whatever-the-pc-terminology) is also telling. Congrats on being cordial with people from different backgrounds on a daily basis, and that you can call them your friends too. You're a real trailblazer and champion of a united human race.
 
HighlandHomie said:
The fact you had to qualify all the reasons you're not consciously prejudice to others with a different background than you reveals plenty about your subconscious (your true you). Sarcastically jabbing at labels (whatever-the-pc-terminology) is also telling. Congrats on being cordial with people from different backgrounds on a daily basis, and that you can call them your friends too. You're a real trailblazer and champion of a united human race.
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What's your agenda?
 
HighlandHomie said:
The fact you had to qualify all the reasons you're not consciously prejudice to others with a different background than you reveals plenty about your subconscious (your true you). Sarcastically jabbing at labels (whatever-the-pc-terminology) is also telling. Congrats on being cordial with people from different backgrounds on a daily basis, and that you can call them your friends too. You're a real trailblazer and champion of a united human race.
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Do you seriously have a problem with me explicitly addressing my stance? I wrote 2 sentences, big explanation, right? I must be insecure, right?

Read it how you want, I have no control over your perceptions. Between you and Kicky it's become a discussion about semantics instead of the initial subject matter.
 
I'm impressed by the impeccable physical strength and agility that it must require to pat oneself on the back so vigorously while remaining balanced on such a lofty horse. Well done, gentlemen.
 
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