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Lyles is the pick at 12

For some reason he's a better shooter off the bounce. I think somebody posted numbers saying he shot 45% off the bounce while he was one of the worst shooters on catch and shoot shots. It's weird... it usually is the other way around.

I wonder if that stems from playing HS with the ball in his hands all the time. Pretty much nobody is actually better off the bounce which makes you think he can probably improve that percentage on catch and shoot quite a bit.
 
It's funny because I like this pick a lot more this morning as well.

Lyles was #9 on Chad Ford's final draft big board.

He has the 7th highest percentage to become a star according to fivethirtyeight.

He has the 2nd lowest chance of becoming a bust according to ESPN.

It wasn't the sexy pick like Booker or Oubre would have been, but he seemed to have the highest floor w/ the highest ceiling combination of anybody left at 12.

Now we have a nice solid rotation:

Guards - Exum, Burke, Hanlan

Wings - Hayward, Burks, Hood

Bigs - Gobert, Favors, Lyles

It also seemed to me that Utah needed a big more than a wing going into the draft anyways. If Lyles was BPA + he fills a need, it was a perfect choice.
 
He looks quite comfortable dribbling in the highlights. I only saw him play two or three times, and he didn't dribble much - just hit a couple mid-range J's and made winning passes. It is really impressive seeing a 6'10'' 19 year old catch the ball off a pin down and immediately drive the ball like a guard or wing.
 
For some reason he's a better shooter off the bounce. I think somebody posted numbers saying he shot 45% off the bounce while he was one of the worst shooters on catch and shoot shots. It's weird... it usually is the other way around.
Maybe because he attended Burks basketball camp lol
 
Maybe because he attended Burks basketball camp lol

It's a bit weird, because I've noticed the same thing - he has the habit of taking a one-dribble pullups even when he's open and doesn't need to dribble... precisely the way Burks does it. I hope they can uproot that habit early.
 
It's a bit weird, because I've noticed the same thing - he has the habit of taking a one-dribble pullups even when he's open and doesn't need to dribble... precisely the way Burks does it. I hope they can uproot that habit early.
The defense never expects it
 
Let me be clear. I don't think he's going to bust. I just don't foresee him being anything more than Boris Diaw today (nice guy to come off the bench). He'll be a good role player coming off our bench.

However, I think I would have preferred Booker because of his alleged elite shooting ability. While Lyles does nothing great or poorly at least Booker can provide us with elite shooting. At the worst, he's Korver. Right? At the best? Klay Thompson?

Lastly, I think The Book's contributions are very underrated by this board. His energy and fire combined with the attitude he displayed in those tweets at Kanter is what this team severely lacks. We have a team of mild mannered talented youngsters. Exum, Burks, Lyles, Hood, Faves, etc could all date my daughter (if I had one).

Gobert and The Book? I dunno. They've got that "prick" attitude that this team lacks. Every now and again our players need to Forget about the techs and Mormon Utah image and kick someone's ***. Gobert and The Book provide that. Lyles does not.

Gobert and increased role of The Book ignited our run last year IMO. Much like Antoine Carr, The Book's contributions were are seen on and off the court, not in the box score.
 
Let me be clear. I don't think he's going to bust. I just don't foresee him being anything more than Boris Diaw today (nice guy to come off the bench). He'll be a good role player coming off our bench.

However, I think I would have preferred Booker because of his alleged elite shooting ability. While Lyles does nothing great or poorly at least Booker can provide us with elite shooting. At the worst, he's Korver. Right? At the best? Klay Thompson?

Lastly, I think The Book's contributions are very underrated by this board. His energy and fire combined with the attitude he displayed in those tweets at Kanter is what this team severely lacks. We have a team of mild mannered talented youngsters. Exum, Burks, Lyles, Hood, Faves, etc could all date my daughter (if I had one).

Gobert and The Book? I dunno. They've got that "prick" attitude that this team lacks. Every now and again our players need to Forget about the techs and Mormon Utah image and kick someone's ***. Gobert and The Book provide that. Lyles does not.

Gobert and increased role of The Book ignited our run last year IMO. Much like Antoine Carr, The Book's contributions were are seen on and off the court, not in the box score.

Booker could turn out fine, but there is no way his FLOOR is Kyle Korver.
 
Let me be clear. I don't think he's going to bust. I just don't foresee him being anything more than Boris Diaw today (nice guy to come off the bench). He'll be a good role player coming off our bench.

However, I think I would have preferred Booker because of his alleged elite shooting ability. While Lyles does nothing great or poorly at least Booker can provide us with elite shooting. At the worst, he's Korver. Right? At the best? Klay Thompson?

Lastly, I think The Book's contributions are very underrated by this board. His energy and fire combined with the attitude he displayed in those tweets at Kanter is what this team severely lacks. We have a team of mild mannered talented youngsters. Exum, Burks, Lyles, Hood, Faves, etc could all date my daughter (if I had one).

Gobert and The Book? I dunno. They've got that "prick" attitude that this team lacks. Every now and again our players need to Forget about the techs and Mormon Utah image and kick someone's ***. Gobert and The Book provide that. Lyles does not.

Gobert and increased role of The Book ignited our run last year IMO. Much like Antoine Carr, The Book's contributions were are seen on and off the court, not in the box score.

Like your points about "The Book" and his attitude. Hopefully we can keep that up next season.

I think you're overstating the other Booker though, Korver as a floor... Is a bit much (best spot shooter ever maybe).
 
BTW, the more I watch of him the more I like his shooting stroke. It looks pretty good, I don't know why his jump shooting %s were so bad.

I think he just needed more minutes to get in a rhythm. Most of his shots were taken cold off the bench.
Also just a small sample size. He does have nice mechanics.
 
For me, I'm concerned with Lyles' defense - mainly because I was hoping for Turner or WCS had we drafted a big and those two are defensive stoppers. Lyles should be quick enough and long enough to guard a 4 but it's tough to tell since he mainly guarded college SFs.

I think the stupid NBADRAFT.NET Boozer comparison is what scares a lot of people - Lyles can't be that bad on the defensive end and if he is I would be unhappy.
 
I like this highlight vid because it's from only one game. Worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJXs20WYlWU
 
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