NAOS
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I don't want to distract you from laying into the right people. Please continue. I'm being 100% serious here. I made Roach meltdown the other day, and I need help poking the bees' nest.
Lyles' Rise = Gobert and Favors' injuries a blessing in disguise?
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I don't want to distract you from laying into the right people. Please continue. I'm being 100% serious here. I made Roach meltdown the other day, and I need help poking the bees' nest.
I thought Roach was in a permanent state of meltdown.
NAOS
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that episode seemed particularly bad, to me.
GVC
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I generally subscribe to the idea that skills and physical attributes are mostly developed/improved in practice and the offseason. However, the efficacy of practice and the offseason in developing skills is a function of playing time and in-game performance in at least the following two ways:
1. In-game performance feedback is a better measure of current effective (in-game) ability/skills than practice performance. This feedback is essential in tailoring a player's training regime/focus, and should have an effect on the speed, direction, and overall efficacy of the training.
2. Players are people too, and their motivation and overall engagement are affected by the opportunities and responsibilities they're given. A player who feels valued and sees his hard work paying off might be more motivated to put in more time training -- and make that time more effective. He might also be more engaged when he's playing, as in Lyles' case (yes, there are other potential explanations).
Now, it may be that the first effect only affects the speed at which skills will be inevitably developed, and so it's not terribly important -- although CBA realities need to be considered. Further, it may be that the group of marginal motivated/unmotivated players is small -- that is, that the vast majority of players either are or aren't engaged/motivated, and as such not affected by their lack of playing time. That's a (tricky) empirical question I can't answer at present. However, based on my experience teaching, in the mission field and in other work/school environments -- admittedly, surrounded by regular/mediocre people rather than professional athletes -- I find that hard to believe.
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Good post, GVC. I think you also have to take into account the players one is practicing against. Did Stockton benefit from learning from and going up against an all-star and "the fastest of them all" in Green for a few years? You bet he did. Did DWill benefit much from practicing against Milt Palacio? I doubt Milt taught Deron very much, I'm sure DWill learned MUCH more by matching up against the elite PG's in the league night after night,
And live games are a whole different animal. I recall reports that CJ was a fantastic practice player. However, Miles could never duplicate that shooting to game situations on a consistent basis when he was here. You can be a great practice player, but then when a little pressure is on, not be near as good. (I'm that way in bowling now and was in church sports back in the days)
And live games are a whole different animal. I recall reports that CJ was a fantastic practice player. However, Miles could never duplicate that shooting to game situations on a consistent basis when he was here. You can be a great practice player, but then when a little pressure is on, not be near as good. (I'm that way in bowling now and was in church sports back in the days)
Also may I remind everybody that Kanter supposedly DOMINATED in 'practice' against DeMarcus Cousins?
Yes... practice is EVERYTHING.
Yes... practice is EVERYTHING.
Also Allen Iverson loves practices... so... yeah... that's why he's a potential HOFer.
GVC
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You can't possibly believe AI didn't devote countless hours to perfecting his craft. He just rolled out of bed an all-time great?
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what sport did you play again? I also wanna here about how you're never wrong again, brings the lols consistently.
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you got a problem with me?
jom2003
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This^^
NAOS
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not you specifically. But when people who mention the blessing of Science and expect the conversation to take an immediate turn: I like to watch those people squirm.
Except thatQuin just said they don't really have time to practice anymore and that shoot arounds were as close of a thing to practice they have now.
Miggs
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I know practice time is limited but I find this to be a bit weak of an excuse. Every year players and teams improve their games and chemistry. In-season too. We aren't.
sahlensguy
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I think you cam compare them. Swimmers, race horses, and basketball players are not robots. They all love to compete. The best ones do anyway. Without competition when it counts, there is no fire at shoot around. Game time and post time counts more than practice.
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The whole 99% thing that Frank posted is one of the dumbest posts ever
Noah's Ark and the flood were real, bro. GL clinging to your mystical ideals. PT was all that mattered to MJ, Kobe, Malone, all the greats. They never practiced their asses off. It was all about climbing on your mythical Ark.