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Marijuana: Facts, Myths, and plain old Stupidity.

No, I have not read this thread. I'm not even really sure what its about. But I'm going to give some of my thoughts on the subject of "weed"

Legalize it. I witnessed what medical marijuana can do first hand. I had a very good friend finally pass away last week. He had been battling with cancer for the last few years. He was in a lot of pain and while he was on pain meds he was either not himself or practically catatonic. Once he started to use medical marijuana instead of pain meds he was able to enjoy the rest of his life a lot better. He wasn't in as much pain and was able to function and be himself a lot more than when he was on pain meds.

I think weed can be dangerous when abused, but alcohol and meds can be WAAAAAY worse. I think they should legalize weed and make alcohol illegal. Alcohol has ruined the lives of a lot family and friends, weed hasnt done anything to them. Had a family member who drove a snow plow in Alaska run into a car full of teenagers and killed them all. The teenagers were drinking and had not pulled all the way off the side of the road, and my family member had also been drinking. He is now serving the rest of his life in prison.

I really enjoy smoking but havent done it in a couple years. The only reason why I don't do it is because I now am trying to live a super healthy lifestyle with a very healthy diet. When I smoke I can't help but eat a tremendous amount of junk food. I feel just as "high" a hour after taking an ambien as I do after I take a couple rips.

The weed is a gateway drug BS is such a joke I'm not even going to bother really going into it. Yes people who do hard drugs usually did weed first, but if weed didnt exists they would still do the hard drugs they just wouldnt have smoked first. Weed itself had nothing to do with the hard drugs.
 
GVC said:
Anyway, the War on Drugs is an abject failure, and thus a complete waste of money. It has served as a giant subsidy to organized crime, just as alcohol prohibition did in the 20s. It makes keeping cannabis and hard drugs out of the hands of youngsters more difficult, increases violent crime, and puts otherwise productive, tax-paying people behind bars. It's one of the reasons I'd rather be in Canada, even though the Harper government is trying to adopt US Drug War policies (they've already pushed through mandatory sentences for anyone growing 6+ cannabis plants).

**** the police.
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I agree. The War on Drugs is one of the most expensive and worthless wars that has ever been waged.
But then again..... we all know that's what the government likes. The C.I.A flies in the drugs that are illegal, and then puts them on the street to put people with no priors in prison.
The"elites" plan for over a century has been to destroy the middle class financially, recruit the wealthy into their club, and put all dissenters in jail.
This is way the war on drugs will never end, it's too perfect of a system for the owners of this country.


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Traslation: I got bored and so I tried some pot, got high, and spent hours trying to justify doing it all the time even though I am no longer 14.
 
Characteristically dismissive. How dare anyone have different values or opinions than you.

This wasn't written by some worthless welfare case. It's Carl ****ing Sagan. Did you even read it?
 
GVC said:
Characteristically dismissive. How dare anyone have different values or opinions than you.

This wasn't written by some worthless welfare case. It's Carl ****ing Sagan. Did you even read it?
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I read it. I liked it. I have always LOVED Carl Sagan.

He and I shared a lot of the same experiences it seems.
 
GVC said:
Characteristically dismissive. How dare anyone have different values or opinions than you.

This wasn't written by some worthless welfare case. It's Carl ****ing Sagan. Did you even read it?
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Characteristically defensive. It all boils down to exactly what I said. He got bored, got high, liked it, and felt the need to write a 300 page (look up hyperbole) essay on the benefits of weed to justify himself. Some people get talkative when high. He gets writative apparently.

Carl Sagan is not God, Ghandi, Steve Jobs, and Teddy the Wonder Lizard rolled into one. He is an astronomer. Yay. Adds no greater validity than any other person to the mairjuana debate. There are plenty of high-profile people in the pro-weed camps.

Funny thing is, I am pro-legalization. I just don't buy all the existential esoteric crap you try to convince yourself of. You like it and want to smoke it whenever you want without fear of legal repercussions. I support that position.

And yes I read it. I found it interesting. He likes weed. It makes him smarter and see colors and better dealing with social situations and able to appreciate art and music. Good for him. I do most of that without weed (minus the hallucinations).

Speaking of not being valuing anyone's opinion but your own, you epitomized that in your response. My response was my opinion. My opinion that his opinion is no greater than anyone elses and had no more substance or validity than anything else posted in this thread. You summarily dismissed it. If an opinion is not immediately recognizable as being hyperbollically pro-weed it is not worth considering. Hypocritical much?.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Speaking of not being valuing anyone's opinion but your own, you epitomized that in your response. My response was my opinion. My opinion that his opinion is no greater than anyone elses and had no more substance or validity than anything else posted in this thread. You summarily dismissed it. If an opinion is not immediately recognizable as being hyperbollically pro-weed it is not worth considering. Hypocritical much?.
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Not at all. There's a qualitative difference in our respective posts.

You've dismissed his motives and conclusions, more or less asserting that people who smoke and enjoy weed (for Dave Ballou) only talk about its other beneficial properties to hide the fact that they only smoke weed because they're immature and hedonistic. I was only dismissing your ignorance (how could you possibly know if what he's saying is true?), which is appropriate.

People have been consuming cannabis for thousands of years for various reasons. Like you, I appreciate many things when not under the influence of cannabis, but my appreciation of those things is fundamentally different when I am under the influence of cannabis. How could you possibly know what his (or my) experience is like? Is it not possible that many people consume cannabis for medicinal and/or other therapeutic reasons? Is it not possible that Sagan's expressed views on the subject are well thought out and, for him at least, true?
 
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