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Marijuana: Facts, Myths, and plain old Stupidity.

Nate505 said:
I agree. On that same point I think driving under the influence of Benadryl should be illegal since it is well known to cause drowsiness, and alertness is a critical component of driving. I'm also at a loss on why the legal status of any drug or substance should take driving into account, since the theory behind driving is that you should be alert when driving and there are plenty of legal ways to decrease alertness. It's just that people concentrate on mind altering ways to not be alert as opposed to using a cell phone or eating or putting on makeup or numerous other things people do behind the wheel, yet the idea of making those precursor actions (using a cell phone in general, putting on makeup at home or in a bathroom, etc.) is absurd. Yet for some reason the idea of making intoxication by itself on certain substances is widely celebrated. I fail to see the rationale behind the latter (or more accurately, I see the rationale but don't believe it is strong).
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With marijuana at least, it stays in your system long after the affects have worn off. So there is no reliable way to test for how high you are. That's the crux of the debate.
 
Bronco70 said:
2 things:

1. Marijuana should be legalized.

2. Driving while high is a bad idea. Period.
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So it's inevitable this comes up, I guess I'll take it there...

So do you think people who legally smoke weed should have to forfeit their license to drive? Or what do you propose happens when someone gets pulled over, given a test, and marijuana is detected from 2 weeks ago? There is no way to prove if it was from 2 weeks ago or not, you're either clean or dirty.
 
SaltyDawg said:
So it's inevitable this comes up, I guess I'll take it there...

So do you think people who legally smoke weed should have to forfeit their license to drive? Or what do you propose happens when someone gets pulled over, given a test, and marijuana is detected from 2 weeks ago? There is no way to prove if it was from 2 weeks ago or not, you're either clean or dirty.
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Please take the time to re-read my post, then proceed to the following:

All I said was "Driving while high is a bad idea". I'm not sure how to further clarify it for you... DRIVING WHILE HIGH implies that said driver is feeling the effects of marijuana at that very moment. Testing and enforcement were not part of my statement.

There are many things you can do while you are driving that are not specifically illegal, but are distracting, and therefor irresponsible to do while operating a motor vehicle. It is incumbent on the operator to recognize that they are impaired, and act accordingly.

So I'm just gonna go ahead and stand by my statement.
 
Bronco70 said:
Please take the time to re-read my post, then proceed to the following:

All I said was "Driving while high is a bad idea". I'm not sure how to further clarify it for you... DRIVING WHILE HIGH implies that said driver is feeling the effects of marijuana at that very moment. Testing and enforcement were not part of my statement.

There are many things you can do while you are driving that are not specifically illegal, but are distracting, and therefor irresponsible to do while operating a motor vehicle. It is incumbent on the operator to recognize that they are impaired, and act accordingly.

So I'm just gonna go ahead and stand by my statement.
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I'm just trying to understand what you mean here. So are you saying driving while high should be legal, or illegal?

If you think it is really dangerous and kills lots of innocent people and all the rest of the scare tactics, then you probably think it should be illegal. But if you don't think it's that big of a deal, then you probably don't think it should be illegal.

Either way, with no way to test for it you can't really have marijuana legal without resolving this issue first.
 
SaltyDawg said:
I'm just trying to understand what you mean here. So are you saying driving while high should be legal, or illegal?
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Last time:

Driving while high is a bad idea.

That's it. That's all I said. I am not making an argument either way for the legality of driving while high. You introduced the enforcement/testing aspect, I did not. Therefor, I feel no responsibility to address that issue, since it is irrelevant in the context of my statement.
 
Bronco70 said:
Last time:

Driving while high is a bad idea.

That's it. That's all I said. I am not making an argument either way for the legality of driving while high. You introduced the enforcement/testing aspect, I did not. Therefor, I feel no responsibility to address that issue, since it is irrelevant in the context of my statement.
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I was only responding to your post which said marijuana should be legal, but driving while high was a bad idea. It kind of contradicts itself with no way to test if someone is actually high while driving. We can only test if marijuana is in their system or not, not if they are actually high at that particular moment.

So I guess it comes down to, which one is more important? Is legalizing marijuana more important, or is making sure people don't drive high more important?

And come on, that's a valid question if you just posted that marijuana should be legal but driving while high is a bad idea.
 
SaltyDawg said:
So I guess same questions to you...

Do you think driving while high is a bad enough idea to make it illegal? Or is it not that big of a deal?
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If you fail a roadside sobriety test, there ought to be some penalty, just like if you get caught driving while texting/putting on your makeup/jerking off.

Unfortunately, you can't test for THC the same way you can for alcohol...if you could, I'd be all for a similar system as is in place for drunk driving (minus the mandatory religious brainwashing at AA).
 
SaltyDawg said:
Nice try, but typical of trollnan. Here is a quote from my first post in this thread:



Click that little arrow next to my name in the quote and it will link you to the post.
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Sounds like you make a lot of contradicting statements then. Make up your mind and let me know.
 
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