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Massive Shooting in Aurora (CO) Theater

PearlWatson said:
I only see the doctor as having any possible liability
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AURORA, Colorado (Reuters) - The man accused in the movie house massacre at a Denver-area screening of the new "Batman" film mailed a notebook detailing his plans to a psychiatrist at his university before the attack...
The package allegedly sent by 24-year-old James Eagan Holmes remained unopened in a mailroom at the University of Colorado, for as long as a week before its discovery on Monday,

After obtaining a search warrant, police took the package away and discovered its contents.

..."Inside the package was a notebook full of details about how he was going to kill people. There were drawings of what he was going to do in it -- drawings and illustrations of the massacre."
Images in the notebook included drawings of stick-figures shooting at other stick figures...
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https://news.yahoo.com/report-color...nt-plans-notebook-psychiatrist-170815999.html

It looks like the doctor could have prevented it had the notebook gotten to him from the mailroom.
 
PearlWatson said:
https://news.yahoo.com/report-color...nt-plans-notebook-psychiatrist-170815999.html

It looks like the doctor could have prevented it had the notebook gotten to him from the mailroom.
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Not that the doctor won't have a few sleepless nights, but I'm not too sure he has a responsibility to read all his mail the instant he gets it. On the flip side, I'm not too sure how much mail an obscure Phd gets. Either way, I'm guessing he reads his mail with more urgency going forward.
 
As far as the killer goes, I'll take the unpopular opinion that he's mentally ill and was in a deep state of psychosis when he committed the crime. By no means do I think he will, or even should, be found not guilty by reason of insanity, or that he should ever be set free.

But I think he differs from the Columbine/Va Tech/Oslo murderers. Those guys were driven by hatred, their hatred was the manifest of deeper psychological issues, they were well aware they were expressing hatred in killing their victims, and by extension exacting "justice."

I think this guy got deeply lost in a fantasy world. Not simply the "I'm the Joker" stuff like Batman messed him up. A true schizoid break where he truly believed he was fulfilling a destiny of some kind. I also think he was aware this was happening to him, and fighting against it, for many years.
 
billyshelby said:
Not that the doctor won't have a few sleepless nights, but I'm not too sure he has a responsibility to read all his mail the instant he gets it. On the flip side, I'm not too sure how much mail an obscure Phd gets. Either way, I'm guessing he reads his mail with more urgency going forward.
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He never got it. Either from a mailroom error or he didn't/couldn't pick it up himself.
 
billyshelby said:
As far as the killer goes, I'll take the unpopular opinion that he's mentally ill and was in a deep state of psychosis when he committed the crime. By no means do I think he will, or even should, be found not guilty by reason of insanity, or that he should ever be set free.

But I think he differs from the Columbine/Va Tech/Oslo murderers. Those guys were driven by hatred, their hatred was the manifest of deeper psychological issues, they were well aware they were expressing hatred in killing their victims, and by extension exacting "justice."

I think this guy got deeply lost in a fantasy world. Not simply the "I'm the Joker" stuff like Batman messed him up. A true schizoid break where he truly believed he was fulfilling a destiny of some kind. I also think he was aware this was happening to him, and fighting against it, for many years.
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Makes sense, but why do you think it is an unpopular opinion?
 
ooh nooos
he is white so he must be crazy.
cus only blacks and muslims comit crimes.
if its the white guy he is mentally ill

ooh noos he needs helps
 
PearlWatson said:
He never got it. Either from a mailroom error or he didn't/couldn't pick it up himself.
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It's summer, perhaps he is on vacation. Plus it apparently had not even been delivered to him. Who knows to what degree things operate differently during the summer when many folks may be on vacation.

And this prof was not a doctor who was treating James Holmes either, or at least not as far as what's mentioned. Just someone who may have taught him.
 
moevillini said:
It's summer, perhaps he is on vacation. Plus it apparently had not even been delivered to him. Who knows to what degree things operate differently during the summer when many folks may be on vacation.

And this prof was not a doctor who was treating James Holmes either, or at least not as far as what's mentioned. Just someone who may have taught him.
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Congratulations on 4,000 posts, moe.
 
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