Hopper
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Yes, you did present it as fact. I have already quoted you on it, and asked you about it--but you have not responded yet.
Mathews signs offer sheet w/Blazers (5 yrs/34 mil)
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Yes, you did present it as fact. I have already quoted you on it, and asked you about it--but you have not responded yet.
billyshelby
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This is not the Millsap situation. With Millsap, the Jazz had three years of data. They had a player who had demonstrated not just an ability to start, but start at a high level. Millsap is also a genuine NBA athlete, and a big man (cue the jokes), and big men come at a premium. They could reasonably project Millsap to be well worth that offer sheet.
Matthews is the opposite. They have one year of data. They have a player who started by default, filled his role admirably, but has clear deficiencies. He's barely an average NBA athlete. And he plays a position where there are always bargains.
Separate the emotion, and this is a no brainer. Bid Wes luck, and spend the money elsewhere on better values.
Matthews is the opposite. They have one year of data. They have a player who started by default, filled his role admirably, but has clear deficiencies. He's barely an average NBA athlete. And he plays a position where there are always bargains.
Separate the emotion, and this is a no brainer. Bid Wes luck, and spend the money elsewhere on better values.
Chad Feldheimer
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As they should have if that was his demand. They had the right to match if he got an offer for, and perhaps less if he got offered that. Why isn't that the logical move?
I think if KOC made that statement there was a good chance he would under contract already. Regardless though, it's obvious Porty did a better job negotiating than Jazz did apparently. Typically it wouldn't matter, because we would just match anyway and be fine. But we are close to tax limit, so it was actually important to avoid offer sheet and the poison pill. Do you understand the point now?
I explained that already in previous post
How long do the Jazz have to make a decision?
jazzmeister
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Jazz will match. $5 mil a year isn't bad for a starting SG. Wesley has a sweet offensive/defensive game and he's only going to get better. He was a MLE player for us last year. If we don't match who are we going to get to replace him that as the same offensive and defensive game? For years we had a weakness at SG. Wesley is our answer. Pay the man and let him get better with the more opportunities coming his way.
Chad Feldheimer
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Remind me. I'm lazy to look for it.
Hopper
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Borat seems to have only one main agenda here. And by "here" I am by no means limiting it to this thread--just look at the others he has posted in. And that is this:
To "prove," via baseless assertions presented as fact, that he knows more, and is much more capable, than the Jazz professionals we should unanimously be begging him to replace.
To "prove," via baseless assertions presented as fact, that he knows more, and is much more capable, than the Jazz professionals we should unanimously be begging him to replace.
I made my position very clear. I think if KOC offered anything, Siler would mention that also or some other report leaked out. Instead all we have is Siler saying Jazz told him to look elsewhere. Am I certain about this? No, just like we cannot be certain of anything that is going on. We have to look at results though and make best conclusions we can. It's obvious Porty did a better job negotiating than Jazz did apparently. Typically it wouldn't matter, because we would just match anyway and be fine. But we are close to tax limit, so it was actually important to avoid offer sheet and the poison pill. You see where the beef is?
That's BS. I did like Hayward's pick, and this Jazz FO did well there as well as many other moves in the past. But I can't just sit here and praise FO when we are losing talent and are not able to get anything added when at least according to reputable reports some good guys (like Jefferson) are within our reach. If KOC gets Jefferson to the Jazz, I will be the first one singing praises. But when we lose 20 and 10 guy for nothing, it's a different story.
jazzmeister
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Started by default? You do know the Jazz opened the season with Korver, Brewer, and CJ as potential SG starters right? Matthews worked his way into the starting lineup. He wasn't put there by default. He made the Brewer trade look like a "ho hum" move rathter than a "OMFG" move. Sure he doesn't have superb athleticism, but he's one of the best defenders on the Jazz, and he can hit from outside and penetrate into the lane. He earned his starting role, and he was a MLE type player for the Jazz last year and in the playoffs.