Hopper
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That the onliest thang he says, is it?
Nice try, though, eh?
Who do you think is gunna fall for that kinda game, though, I wonder?
Mathews signs offer sheet w/Blazers (5 yrs/34 mil)
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That the onliest thang he says, is it?
Nice try, though, eh?
Who do you think is gunna fall for that kinda game, though, I wonder?
I don't see any FA SG's out there I would take over Matthews at that price. Hell, I don't see any FA SG's out there that deserve the MLE besides Wesley. The Jazz will match, as they should.
Darkwing Duck
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Ha!
Full line:
"Jazz declined to offer full MLE, and told him to find from another team."
Ridiculous that you think they weren't negotiating.
gregbroncs
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Why does it have to be a FA? The Jazz have TPE's they could use to get just about any available SG depending on the situation of the other team.
Hopper
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The Jazz have to time to decide if they'll match.'
If I was KOC, I would match. Matthews has some qualities which transcend his raw skill set, and which no amount of money can buy for a player that don't have them.
I don't know that, just like you don't but it looks like Siler is saying Jazz told Wes to look for a team to offer him deal. I also never heard any reports of Jazz making him any offer. Anything we say - we speculate, this is a message board after all. But it sure does seem like Porty did a better job than us negotiating, that's for sure. Fact is, now we have to swallow poison pill if we want to keep him, which would not have to do, even if we agreed to the same amount.
Why? It does not mention any offer they made. If we did make an offer, wouldn't you think Siler would mention it in this context?
Indeed we are in complete agreement.
gregbroncs
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Do you know that there is a poison pill. Because it's not just the Jazz that would have to swallow it if Portland offered it. And at this point an offer to Mathews will not put the Jazz over the tax directly so including it would help the Jazz in the future as they could have more money later.
Porty got him signed to an overinflated contract. I would not call that better negotiating. Just having more money to throw around.
Yes we speculate. But you keep expecting the players to just accept a lesser deal because it's for the Jazz. Why would they do that again?
I respect your viewpoint and yes $5M is not gross in relative dollars for NBA ballers especially with the figures being thrown around this free agency, but Wes Matthews taking up the full MLE with the Jazz having NO skilled big men would show the continued incompetence of the FO. Hoping that Wes, CJ, and Paul "improve" while DWill is already playing at a Superstar level will only ensure he is out the door in a few years. He will feel like LeBron. Losing Boozer means we have post presence besides Paul. I'm not a Haslem fan but he ain't coming hear for the vet min. or whatever is left from MLE if any. We had a logjam at the 2/3 so let Hayward play some meaningful minutes now and try to turn an expiring AK into a good player.
Chad Feldheimer
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Exactly. What leverage did Matthews have? None. He HAD to find out what his market was for the Jazz to bump up their offer at all.
Matthews: I want the full MLE
KOC: Based on what? We can go 4y/16M. How about that?
Matthews: No. I know I can get more
KOC: Ok. That's fine. You have every right to explore what is out there. However, we have the right to match any offer so if you'd like to explore what's out there, we'd be happy to consider offering you the same thing.