Game Thread May 26, 2021 08:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Grizzlies - Game 2

[Agent#00]

This game showed us Ja and Valanciunas can't guard Mike and Rudy on Pnr. This has a lot to do with Mikes ability to quickly process things. It was unstoppable! But also i worry about Mike guarding Ja on the other end. We need to help him.

 

[LogGrad98]

why is it that the opposing guard always goes the **** off on the jazz every playoff series?
last year freakin murray now morant.

This has been discussed numerous times since we even had rumors of trading for Conley. This was our achilles heel last year and we did nothing in the off-season nor at the trade deadline to address it. I think it'll end up being what takes us down if or when we lose a series. We have no one to lock down, hell or even slow down, strong opposing wings/guards.

 

[LogGrad98]

This game showed us Ja and Valanciunas can't guard Mike and Rudy on Pnr. This has a lot to do with Mikes ability to quickly process things. It was unstoppable! But also i worry about Mike guarding Ja on the other end. We need to help him.

These guys have to learn to stay in front of their man at least. Revolving doors on the perimeter won't cut it.

And why the **** did we continue to fight over screens that just allowed Morant to go exactly where he wanted to go? Go under the damn screen and force him to take jump shots. He's not a good shooter.

This is another reason I feel QS is overrated. I think he's decent at making adjustments at the half or quarter or even been games, but he is so rigid he is really bad at making live reads and adjusting to it on the fly. Instead we give up a 43-point quarter getting slaughtered fighting over screens and sitting Gobert and Mitchell too long, but he makes a good adjustment between quarters and we luckily executed the plan and won. It didn't work so well in the first game where we made the adjustment but didn't execute and lost.

 

[Max Porter]

He also fouls a lot and turns the ball over. There are things to the game beyond the simplicity of "offense" or "defense".

In Oni's case, he hasn't exhibited greater consistent net positives to warrant playoff time given the risks he carries. If he was an ace defender or if there was any question as to who belonged in the rotation, maybe this idea would carry merit, but there isn't any question, and Oni's defense is more theoretical than material.

I just mean we should throw more than one guy at Morant. That's all haha

 

[Max Porter]

These guys have to learn to stay in front of their man at least. Revolving doors on the perimeter won't cut it.

And why the **** did we continue to fight over screens that just allowed Morant to go exactly where he wanted to go? Go under the damn screen and force him to take jump shots. He's not a good shooter.

This is another reason I feel QS is overrated. I think he's decent at making adjustments at the half or quarter or even been games, but he is so rigid he is really bad at making live reads and adjusting to it on the fly. Instead we give up a 43-point quarter getting slaughtered fighting over screens and sitting Gobert and Mitchell too long, but he makes a good adjustment between quarters and we luckily executed the plan and won. It didn't work so well in the first game where we made the adjustment but didn't execute and lost.

If Mitchell played even 15 minutes in game 1 we'd be up 2-0 and then no one would be saying quinn is overrated. He's not overrated. He's a great coach, especially from a developmental perspective. He's taken mitchell, gobert's, joe ingles, JC, even Niang to a higher level. I'd say he's a top 5 to top 8 coach in the league.

 

[infection]

These guys have to learn to stay in front of their man at least. Revolving doors on the perimeter won't cut it.

And why the **** did we continue to fight over screens that just allowed Morant to go exactly where he wanted to go? Go under the damn screen and force him to take jump shots. He's not a good shooter.

This is another reason I feel QS is overrated. I think he's decent at making adjustments at the half or quarter or even been games, but he is so rigid he is really bad at making live reads and adjusting to it on the fly. Instead we give up a 43-point quarter getting slaughtered fighting over screens and sitting Gobert and Mitchell too long, but he makes a good adjustment between quarters and we luckily executed the plan and won. It didn't work so well in the first game where we made the adjustment but didn't execute and lost.

We try to stay close with him on the perimeter, only to get burned and he gets a high percentage shot or a chance to put Rudy in foul trouble. Baffling why you wouldn’t just camp out in his spots. If he burns you at 15’, then fine; Rudy is there. But if he burns you 25’ out then he’s headed into the lane with a lot of momentum and the whistles are flying.

 

[yamers]

drummond lol

 

[Moonlight Graham]

I think it's worth trying a zone on them, at least as a change of pace on a few possessions. It's hard to see how it could be much worse than what we've tried so far.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Yeah, I am a bit disappointed in Snyder this series. It feels like we're running a defense designed to stop a completely different type of offense than what we're actually going against.

Agreeeeed!

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Thurl asked a question between games 1 & 2... something like:

The Jazz are designed to stop the three and force lower percentage paint points. But what adjustments do you need to make when a team like Memphis prefers the midrange over the 3 point shot?

Needless to say, Quinn answer sounded a bit like... we are going to defend the 3 point line to the death. It wasn't an inspiring Chessmaster's response.

I like Quin, but I think he is over thinking this one.

 

[candrew]

Thurl asked a question between games 1 & 2... something like:

The Jazz are designed to stop the three and force lower percentage paint points. But what adjustments do you need to make when a team like Memphis prefers the midrange over the 3 point shot?

Needless to say, Quinn answer sounded a bit like... we are going to defend the 3 point line to the death. It wasn't an inspiring Chessmaster's response.

I like Quin, but I think he is over thinking this one.

I think the recipe is, regardless of opponent, The Jazz run the opposing team off the 3 point line, Rudy does his thing in the paint and Utah has an average night or better from 3 and the win probability is very high.

Can't really argue with that.

 

[Max Porter]

I’m not convinced yet that the Grizzlies can beat us with a healthy Mitchell. They barely eeked out a win by 3 points without Donovan. Restricted minutes Donovan gives us a 12 point win. I’d take that any day in the playoffs.

I think the Grizzlies will split in Memphis and the jazz then take game 5.