Game Thread May 31, 2021 07:30PM MT: Jazz at Grizzlies - Game 4

[LogGrad98]

Perhaps. I guess I give the edge to Dray since at his contributions were less narrow.

Dray is absolutely more versatile, no doubt. But for just defense and rebounding rodman was definitely better.

 

[enchilada_style]

Draymond is not great at this lol

 

[NUMBERICA]

I was too young to appreciate him, but I remember Gary Payton being a really good man to man defender. Did he ever win DPOY?

Yes. Not great off-ball, though. That defense was anchored by Kemp who doesn't get the same credit.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I liked how Kenny Smith called out Draymond for his critique of Gobert’s defense.

What was funny is I was watching with my brother in law and said... “now watch Draymond is totally gonna bag on Rudy”. His point wasn’t completely bogus but the way he made it looked like we were down 20 and Rudy was garbage

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Draymond is not great at this lol

Disagree... and I hate him. He’s really good at it.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Hold on guys, I couldn’t have been the only person seeing Bogie get hurt on the last play of the game. He was favoring his wrist and then held it after the game clock expired. Anyone else see that? I think he jammed it on the person he was defending.

Yeah, it happened with 13 seconds left. Bogie was trying to rub off on a Jared Jackson pick to release to get the ball. As he did, I think Jackson grabbed his arm or his arm got caught in the mixup. He was grabbing it instantly and didn't stop rubbing it for the next 45 seconds or so.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Dray is absolutely more versatile, no doubt. But for just defense and rebounding rodman was definitely better.

I wonder how some of the advanced metrics would paint this, but my gut says you're right about the defense (Rodman is obviously the absolute GOAT at rebounding).

 

[Rubashov]

Perhaps. I guess I give the edge to Dray since his contributions were less narrow.

I dunno Rodman at his best could do it all.

 

[Crawlnstall]

I was too young to appreciate him, but I remember Gary Payton being a really good man to man defender. Did he ever win DPOY?

He did in the early 90s. Pretty sure he’s the only PG to ever win the award

 

[Ron Mexico]

I dunno Rodman at his best could do it all.

Besides anything on offense.

 

[Rubashov]

Hakeem is first, Rudy is second, Mutombo is third. Rodman and Dray are elite but are in a different category and are simply not as impactful.

Rodman's rebounding was the best I'd ever seen. Didn't see prime Hakeem because we didn't get a heap of NBA here when i was a kid. Mutombo was one of my favourites growing up, I was 6 foot tall at 11 so I played a lot of 5 as a kid.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I dunno Rodman at his best could do it all.

If by "do" you mean be the most disruptive player ever (I mean that mostly in a good way), then we agree.