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Mike Conley Contingency Plan

Saint Cy of JFC said:
S&T's rarely ever happen for a reason.
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Not true. The latest CBA has actually led to a spike in Sign-And-Trades the last couple years.

Link isn't working but just look up "How the NBA Fell in Love With Sign and Trade Deals". It's a great article.

"All in all, more than a dozen players went to new teams in a sign-and-trade in the last two offseasons. Another that would have sent Bogdan Bogdanovic to Milwaukee fell through when the Kings illegally tried to trade Bogdanovic before he’d agreed to a new deal with the Bucks. But the question remains, why do NBA front offices have a sudden obsession with the sign-and-trade? There are likely a few answers, but several can be traced directly to another trend that has developed in parallel with the S&T — the home run swing. Yesterday’s trade is a prime example: a team dumping all their long-term assets, including a boatload of future first rounders, to acquire a superstar. Milwaukee took their swing just weeks ago, sending out multiple 1sts and pick swaps for Jrue Holiday. It happened in 2019 as well, with the Clippers and Lakers both unloading young talent and future draft picks in exchange for All-NBA level talent."
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Speculating on how much tax Ryan Smith is willing to pay seems pretty foolish.
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Nobody is speculating that. Merely pointing out the huge luxury tax bill that comes with re-signing Conley and how trading Favors would help that significantly.

You think if you went to Smith and said we can pay a 48.75M luxury tax bill if we keep Favors or we can get that down to 10.5M if we trade him he is going to be like **** it pay the extra 38.25M to keep Favors.
 
White Chocolate said:
Nobody is speculating that. Merely pointing out the huge luxury tax bill that comes with re-signing Conley and how trading Favors would help that significantly.

You think if you went to Smith and said we can pay a 48.75M luxury tax bill if we keep Favors or we can get that down to 10.5M if we trade him he is going to be like **** it pay the extra 38.25M to keep Favors.
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Possibly. I think the Jazz are undoubtedly a better team with Favors on the roster than off if all we are trading him for is tax relief.
 
mongoose01 said:
Hell if I know… are you sure he isn’t? It’s in the eastern conference where he has said he wants to sign. It’s close to home if he wants to get back to Indiana.


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He also said he wants to win a championship, Boston gives him a real chance, Chicago doesn't. Although Conley/Lavine/Williams/Vuc is intriguing.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Speculating on how much tax Ryan Smith is willing to pay seems pretty foolish.
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Why? Its fairly important... the luxury tax to run it back and add someone at the taxpayer MLE is like $61M. We weren't good enough this year to make the WCF... how many owners pay $60M+ in luxury tax for a team that isn't consider a favorite?

If you factor in repeater tax issues/costs the following year it could be a similar tax just to fill out the roster and keep the crew together (minus Joe Ingles).

The tax will be an over arching them of the next two offseasons... as much as we'd love to say "don't worry about it... Ryan will pony up" I just don't think he is giving JZ a blank check here. There will be budget cuts... its basically a certainty.
 
mongoose01 said:
Hell if I know… are you sure he isn’t? It’s in the eastern conference where he has said he wants to sign. It’s close to home if he wants to get back to Indiana.


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That eastern conference thing was rumor/speculation/not confirmed.
 
FAILED STATE said:
That eastern conference thing was rumor/speculation/not confirmed.
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I think it was also somewhat all-star oriented... Mike got his AS... his best shot at money and a title is in Utah imo... hopefully our goals align.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think it was also somewhat all-star oriented... Mike got his AS... his best shot at money and a title is in Utah imo... hopefully our goals align.
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It may have also been about trying to land specifically in Toronto....

Anyway, I see no reason to hang my hat on that eastern conference ****.
 
White Chocolate said:
Nobody is speculating that. Merely pointing out the huge luxury tax bill that comes with re-signing Conley and how trading Favors would help that significantly.

You think if you went to Smith and said we can pay a 48.75M luxury tax bill if we keep Favors or we can get that down to 10.5M if we trade him he is going to be like **** it pay the extra 38.25M to keep Favors.
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He saved $33 million on Dons All NBA super max, I’d say he probably feels better about paying the tax now. It could have been potentially a $33 million more over the next 5 years of a tax bill, and he knew that when Rudy and Don signed their contracts.
 
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