Millsap for Bledsoe?

[Flc]

Do share.

The Clippers guy basically said he'd do the deal of Bledsoe for Millsap and thinks Millsap would be a great fit.
He didn't share any of Locke's reasons of why the Clippers wouldn't do it, and said the only reason they might not is because of team chemistry.

Locke also stated that:
1) He thinks that Clippers are waiting to see if Garnett pans out, if it doesn't, they'll go with Millsap.
2) He wouldn't mind Burks being part of the deal, because he doesn't think we'd be able to pay Burks anyway if we were paying Favors, Hayward, EBled, and Kanter.

And he just retweeted an Ainge quote saying that Ainge doesn't think Boston will make moves before deadline.

 

[NUMBERICA]

How solid would we be at the guard positions with a rotation of Mo Williams, Burks and Bledsoe? Hayward then plays some at SG, but gets most of his minutes at SF. If that were to happen, the Jazz should look to re-sign DeMarre and trade Marvin in the off-season.

Considering that the Jazz still wouldn't have a point guard? Still quite a bit left to be desired.

 

[The Midnight]

Considering that the Jazz still wouldn't have a point guard? Still quite a bit left to be desired.

Bledsoe? Mo is plenty good as a 1st back up. May be sign Tinsley to be our 2nd back up. That's plenty.

 

[MoTappin]

This.

Burks isn't even comfortable dribbling the ball up the court. Thats a huge problem if you are trying to play pg. The only thing that Burks does well right now that even resembles a pg, is passing off the pnr. Bledsoe looks a lot more like a pg than Burks does.

Totally agree with both of you.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Considering that the Jazz still wouldn't have a point guard? Still quite a bit left to be desired.

Mo is a PG. Is he a "pass-first" PG? No, but his assist totals are just fine. Jazz have had a ton of pass-first PG's like Knight, Hart, Watson and Tinsley.
Without Jefferson, without a dominant P&R player, the Jazz need to rely more on ball movement. They can have multiple facilitators; the ball doesn't always have to go from PG to shooter, back to PG, over to second option. Look how well the Jazz have functioned of late with Foye and Burks. When Tinsley and Watson are in, the opposing PG's can play soft. Let those two hit 1 of 5; that's ok. Fisher was a SG; Lakers won with him at the point. Wade is a scorer, Miami won a title with him being the primary ballhandler. Yes, those teams have superstars, but that's not the point. The point is, you can run a successful offense without having one guy be the distributor every time down the court.

 

[Siro]

Mo is a PG. Is he a "pass-first" PG? No, but his assist totals are just fine. Jazz have had a ton of pass-first PG's like Knight, Hart, Watson and Tinsley.
Without Jefferson, without a dominant P&R player, the Jazz need to rely more on ball movement. They can have multiple facilitators; the ball doesn't always have to go from PG to shooter, back to PG, over to second option. Look how well the Jazz have functioned of late with Foye and Burks. When Tinsley and Watson are in, the opposing PG's can play soft. Let those two hit 1 of 5; that's ok. Fisher was a SG; Lakers won with him at the point. Wade is a scorer, Miami won a title with him being the primary ballhandler. Yes, those teams have superstars, but that's not the point. The point is, you can run a successful offense without having one guy be the distributor every time down the court.

I'm guessing he meant a pass-first PG who isn't utter garbage.

 

[bigmike]

Frankly, I don't think we "need" a pass-first PG. I think our system is designed for PG's to get assists and facilitate baskets for other people, regardless of their style. I'd personally like to see us get a PG not in the pass-first mold. Someone a little more attack minded who can create their own shot and excel in an iso-setting (a la Deron Williams) for situations where we need someone to get us a bucket.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I'm guessing he meant a pass-first PG who isn't utter garbage.

And how many of those are there in this league? Rondo and ...?
DWill loved to score when he was with the Jazz. Utah even tried to accommodate him one year by having him play some off-guard with Maynor coming in at the point. CP is a scorer, etc., etc. Barring a reincarnation of John Stockton, the model for a PG in Utah's system is probably Deron (without the ego). But let's not throw away what we have. Burks can be every bit as effective as Maggete was in his prime. Hayward, once he learns a bit more control, is a terrific weapon driving and dishing. I WANT a multi-threat attack. Whether it's the PG, SG, or SF, have the ball moving around all the time, with all three of those guys able to step back and hit a 3 if you sag off, or drive by you if you play too tight.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

The Jazz FO probably feels the complete opposite way. But I'm still gonna say it, I say we embrace the youth movement 100% starting now.i would trade Millsap and Jefferson. Millsap for Bledsoe, then trade Jefferson for Mills and Splitter. Once all the garbage these trades could potentially bring is gone, our lineup for next year could be this:

PG: Bledsoe, Mills, Draft
SG: Hayward, Burks, Foye
SF: Carroll, Hayward
PF: Favors, Splitter, Draft
C: Kanter, Splitter, Draft

I know it a huge risk giving away all our veterans, but we know what we have if we stand pat. At best we are a 5 seed, and maybe we win one playoff series. That's not good enough for me. I know this team could totally suck, but I don't think so. They are all about the same age, they could grow together. Think of the potential defense of that starting five. Burks could be a great number one option off the bench. Foye is a maybe, but if we could convince him to come back cheap and be a three point specialist of the bench, I think it could work. Kanter could be one of the best big men in the league. Remember last year? He looked totally lost and consistently missed dunks and layups. He looks like a completely different person this year, imagine in a few more years.

I would start Favors and Kanter for the rest of the year. Let them know you are committed to them for the future, then this summer offer Favors an extension. We can probably get him for below max now, but not for long. Do the same with the rest of the core 4 (5 with Bledsoe) when the time comes. I would love to see that team in 3 years.

Yea, maybe we end up totally sucking. So what? The number of championships would still be the same if we stood pat and had a couple of early playoff exits. And at least this team would be fun as hell to watch. If we want to be a real contender this gives us our best chance.

Ok I'm done. Sorry guys.

Sidenote: at least get this trade done! Please!

 

[Siro]

And how many of those are there in this league? Rondo and ...?
DWill loved to score when he was with the Jazz. Utah even tried to accommodate him one year by having him play some off-guard with Maynor coming in at the point. CP is a scorer, etc., etc. Barring a reincarnation of John Stockton, the model for a PG in Utah's system is probably Deron (without the ego). But let's not throw away what we have. Burks can be every bit as effective as Maggete was in his prime. Hayward, once he learns a bit more control, is a terrific weapon driving and dishing. I WANT a multi-threat attack. Whether it's the PG, SG, or SF, have the ball moving around all the time, with all three of those guys able to step back and hit a 3 if you sag off, or drive by you if you play too tight.

I'm sure you're right. Rondo is my absolute ideal PG. Barring that, I suppose we can create an OKC-style PG-less system. We would need a better coach first, of course.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

With hayward's and burk's ability to pass, I'm not sure we need to worry about finding a guy who can get 9+ assists per game. i'm not sure we want someone that ball dominant. but we should be looking for a point who can get 7.5 assists or so, hopefully defend, and shoot and drive reasonablie well

 

[Sneakers]

Idiotic to trade Burks because of contract concerns 2-3 years down the road. Why not keep both and see who is better at that point? Maybe they'll both end up being ones we want to keep.

I don't get why the Jazz drafted Burks over Leonard if they really just don't care for him.