Disparagingly acerbic.
Millsap starting
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Fishsticks
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Pretty much disgusted right now. Favors needs confidence and this does not help. Just disgusting on so many levels. If this is the route the Jazz are going to take, I am not paying for LP this year. I was content watching them lose while the young guys got burn, but this is just beyond asinine. Proabbaly wait for the midseason pricing at this point. Maybe then Ty will be fired, and Jeffersona nd Bell will have been shipped off.
Jazz4ever
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Favors has no range and can't spread the floor. Millsap has great range, possibly out to the 3 point line this year. You can't win in this league without good floor spacing.
Jefferson doesn't have much range either, and Favors is a better rebounder and defender. So start Favors/Millsap.
billyshelby
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It's way better offensively obviously. But lets wait and see how they fare defensively in the new scheme. We need to get off to good starts and I think Al and Sap can play much better together than they have.
I like this move. Favors isn't ready to start. I think he will play better coming off the bench for now. It's hard to keep Millsap on the bench when he is the only player giving 110% effort and it's hard to bench Jefferson when he is the only player who can create offense for himself.
billyshelby
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Just imagine if Ty started Burks/CJ instead of Bell with that unit. Hawyard/Burks/CJ/Harris can all drive and pass. Not only can you exploit your best defensive matchup down low (pick and pop with Sap, Al on the block), but you can run P&R with any player on the arc at any time. That could be a very dynamic, fun offense to watch.
Jazz4ever
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Well having an incompetent offense leads to bad defense. Turnovers, bricked jump shots, both those lead to run outs where any NBA team has trouble containing. I guarantee starting Millsap will do wonders.
GVC
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You realize the Jazz start the 3rd quarter with the starters, right?
The starters were a combined -109 vs. the Lakers, the bench was a combined -16 v. the Lakers (the bench combined for more minutes than the starters).
The starters were a combined -60 v. the Nuggets, the bench was a combined -25 v. the Nuggets (again, the bench played more than the starters).
The Jazz outscored their opponents last season with Millsap on the court. The Jazz were also better rebounding the ball with Millsap on the court than off the court last season.
Not that these are the only statistics that matter, but you should probably consider these things before agreeing blindly with David Locke, who just so happens to be a complete ****ing moron. The starters have been absolutely thrashed in the first two games, and the Jazz have consistently been better defensively and on the boards with Millsap on the court.
The bench plays a lot of garbage time in the 4th when the other team has obviously stopped trying. Perfect example was the Lakers game. Millsap is dominating, scoring 7 straight points, then Kobe comes back and score 7 back effortlessly. Our bench isn't playing any better than the starters, they just play when the other team isn't trying.
GVC
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I agree that the raw numbers are not an accurate depiction of what's going on out there, but I don't agree that the bench has been just as bad as the starters. The bench has played better.
With all that said, Raja and Devin are still starting, and an Al-Millsap frontcourt certainly has weaknesses. It'll probably still be pretty ugly.
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BluesRocker
Banned
It's going to be a very long and ugly season.
Lottery here we come! Whoo hoo
It's what I want, but seeing Ty make questionable coaching decisions is very discouraging. Good thing he isn't under contract for very long. I want to give him a chance, but it isn't looking good so far.
Poor TY, he picked up on some of jerrys bad habits. And that's going to be his down fall.
It's almost like he is putting pressure on himself to be like Jerry. He needs to be his own person.
This should be the starting Line up
Hayward
Burks
Cj
Millsap
Favors
Yes Hayward can play the point. He would at least be better than Harris.
He's the closest thing we have to someone making plays for others.
Lottery here we come! Whoo hoo
It's what I want, but seeing Ty make questionable coaching decisions is very discouraging. Good thing he isn't under contract for very long. I want to give him a chance, but it isn't looking good so far.
Poor TY, he picked up on some of jerrys bad habits. And that's going to be his down fall.
It's almost like he is putting pressure on himself to be like Jerry. He needs to be his own person.
This should be the starting Line up
Hayward
Burks
Cj
Millsap
Favors
Yes Hayward can play the point. He would at least be better than Harris.
He's the closest thing we have to someone making plays for others.