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fishonjazz said:
Now that the team is finally healthy it will be interesting to see what quin does with the minutes and rotations.

This is how i would like it to be in a close game without foul trouble and everyone playing well (of course blowouts, foul issues and poor play would vary the minutes from game to game but Im just looking at a hypothetical where everyone plays well without foul trouble in a close game).

Center position: Gobert gets 34 minutes. Favors get the remaining 14 minutes.
Power forward position: Favors gets 16 minutes. Lyles gets 25 minutes. JJ gets 7 minutes.
Small forward position: Hayward gets 35 minutes. ingles gets 13 minutes
Shooting guard position: Hood gets 28 minutes. Burks gets 20 minutes.
Point guard position: Hill gets 35 minutes. Mack gets 13 minutes.

Exum goes to the d league. Diaw gets groomed to be a coach and we use him more in a player/coach role.

Lyles has been coming on strong of late so he might need more minutes. Tough to find minutes for JJ. Maybe him and ingles have to split em up a bit but i feel that ingles has outplayed JJ.

Gonna be some tough decisions for quin. Good problem to have though and as long as hill, gobert and hayward are all healthy and playing a lot then i figure we will win plenty of games and finish in the 4th or 5th spot at worst. I think we win in round one of the playoffs and face goldens state in round 2 and lose 4-2 but give them a decent battle.
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Maybe consider yanking Rodney if he's off ??? Leave him on for 40 mins the one game in 3 that he's shooting well and let Alec play more the other games.
Shorten Mack's leash considerably
 
I don't know what is different about Mack this year. But he isn't the pass first PG I enjoyed watching last year. It's like he jacks up shots just to get his. Out of rhythm of the team and the play.


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elan_prodigy said:
I have doubts Joe Jingles can maintain his early season level of play and also think he is found out against the better teams in the league, AB will continue to build his minutes and "connectivity" with the group and be back in his 6th man spot by All Star break. With everyone healthy and our 2nd unit now consisting of Burks, Lyles, Favors, Hood/JJ/Ingles Id be tempted to throw Dante back into the mix... Either that or more triple wing ie; no more Shelvin Whack
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Even if his shooting falls off some, He still does other things on the court that help the team without showing in the stats. He passes very well, he's a far better defender than people want to give him credit for, He's an irritant on the court for the other team, without being a huge distraction for his team(something I think is undervalued). He's also a good shooter. IMO I'd rather have a guy like Ingles, than a guy like Burks. Burks (granted it's been extremely limited) in his minutes this year has been a ball stopping black hole. The same guy we've seen his entire career. He's also a very poor defender, probably the worst of our regular rotation guys with the exception of Shelvin Mack.
 
gregbroncs said:
Even if his shooting falls off some, He still does other things on the court that help the team without showing in the stats. He passes very well, he's a far better defender than people want to give him credit for, He's an irritant on the court for the other team, without being a huge distraction for his team(something I think is undervalued). He's also a good shooter. IMO I'd rather have a guy like Ingles, than a guy like Burks. Burks (granted it's been extremely limited) in his minutes this year has been a ball stopping black hole. The same guy we've seen his entire career. He's also a very poor defender, probably the worst of our regular rotation guys with the exception of Shelvin Mack.
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Ingles is the perfect glue guy that can occasionally do a little more and when he catches fire it likely results in a win. I would not play Burks over him right now.

I'd love to steal some of diaws time and allocate it to Burks through playing 3 or 4 wings though. Diaw is killing us most nights... now that we are healthy and Lyles shooting has come back diaw needs to focus more on his coffee and photography.
 
gregbroncs said:
Even if his shooting falls off some, He still does other things on the court that help the team without showing in the stats. He passes very well, he's a far better defender than people want to give him credit for, He's an irritant on the court for the other team, without being a huge distraction for his team(something I think is undervalued). He's also a good shooter. IMO I'd rather have a guy like Ingles, than a guy like Burks. Burks (granted it's been extremely limited) in his minutes this year has been a ball stopping black hole. The same guy we've seen his entire career. He's also a very poor defender, probably the worst of our regular rotation guys with the exception of Shelvin Mack.
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How can anyone make a judgment about Burks this season in the scant minutes he has received -- black hole, wtf? Joe Johnson is a black hole, sure he can score but when he passes it's often a turnover. Burks didn't see the ball once last night and Quin should've put him in earlier. I wish he had given him some of the minutes he gave to Mack and Rodney, who had problems staying with his man. The only criticism about Burks this season that can be justified is that he's not getting any PT.
 
gregbroncs said:
Burks (granted it's been extremely limited) in his minutes this year has been a ball stopping black hole.
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Total BS. I think burks has about the same many assists as shot attempts so far this year.
He didn't even touch the ball last night.
 
fishonjazz said:
Total BS. I think burks has about the same many assists as shot attempts so far this year.
He didn't even touch the ball last night.
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I have no idea how anyone can call a guy a black hole based on his 3-4 minute playing stints he's received. Did well in the Minny game... and took maybe one quick jumper, but ball stopper... ummmm
 
Exum should take all of Mack's 15 minutes. It's not like Mack helps us win games anyways, and playing Exum those 15 minutes won't cause us to lose games. But it does have the potential to give back his confidence and maybe (with little hope) unlock his potential.

We are still an irrelevant team in the long run if Exum doesn't pan out.

And most importantly, Mack sucks.
 
magic said:
Exum should take all of Mack's 15 minutes. It's not like Mack helps us win games anyways, and playing Exum those 15 minutes won't cause us to lose games. But it does have the potential to give back his confidence and maybe (with little hope) unlock his potential.

We are still an irrelevant team in the long run if Exum doesn't pan out.

And most importantly, Mack sucks.
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This. The "win now" mantra is kinda funny, it's not like we're fighting for a title, and we're good enough that we're gonna win plenty of games. Dumb to ignore the future completely.
 
DownUnder said:
This. The "win now" mantra is kinda funny, it's not like we're fighting for a title, and we're good enough that we're gonna win plenty of games. Dumb to ignore the future completely.
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No it's not. You dont win and you risk having Hayward/Hill leave in FA for teams who can win.
 
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