Missing offensive play

[franklin]

Hopefully someone can help me out with a name because I have no clue what this play is called. Either way it disappeared from the Jazz arsenal before Sloan left.

The center takes a pass free throw line high and Jazz run a ton of read based options to get either an easy back cut layup, middle key catch-and-shoot, low PF catch-and-score, or a good shot from either wing. You know the play I'm talking about where Ostertag looked like a stiff pass faking back and forth. It must have worked pretty well even with his no shot threat because Sloan ran it over and over and over. Collins must have run it pretty well too, and became quite the proficient shooter from that spot by the end of his career. Teams were dumb to do the Brewer sag when he had the ball there.

Does anyone have a clue why this play has been completely lost? Extra bonus points for the name, if any.

 

[Revolution 9]

Sloan #2 out of 5

 

[gregbroncs]

I know the play your talking about. (can't remember the name either)

The play requires your center to be able to pass the ball in traffic. Something Big Al does not seem capable of. Maybe this is why the play was scrapped.

 

[Archie Moses]

UCLA cut?

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I believe you're just explaining a beginning option of the 1-4 UCLA play.

Jazz run under Corbin, but it's not being run hard enough by the players, nor have the screens been set well or hard enough.

 

[theNBAnerd]

there's not a specific name for the play; it's just part of the same flex system the jazz are currently running. the difference is that they use it less because they're only focusing on a part of the offense because of the shortened training camp. instead they've been very low-post and pnr focused because that's what they had time to get to now. i'm sure we'll see more stuff in the high post, elbow, FT line extended as january continues and they get more practice time to continue expanding on the O.

that said, i'm not sure they have the personnel for the particular thing you're talking about. al jefferson is a horrible passer at his position and derrick's assist percentage is literally ZERO percent. maybe you have paul run the five on those sets.

 

[mellow]

I think it is part of the flex. It was lost when Al came.

https://coachingbetterbball.blogspot.com/2008/12/utah-jazz-flex-continuity-offense.html

I would like to see it again, I can imagine Kanter learning to knock down that 15-18 foot shot or passing out of the high post. But he might also be better on the low block for setting monster screens, and rebounding. Locke says Favors has shown some real good flashes of passing ability.

Also like to see some good old '4 low' with Favors on the block, atleast 5 times in the first quarter.

 

[franklin]

Thanks for the replies thus far.

First off, if Ostertag could do it then Jefferson can. Does this place have to blame Jefferson for everything?

Second, it didn't disappear completely. Francisco Elson ran it a bit last year. Being a veteran who understands is probably the reason.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Yeah, that is the UCLA offense. The Point passes to a wing and the center (at the free throw line) sets a screen for the point guard to run through. If the PG can he gets an easy layup. (Stockton did this a lot) Then the center steps out towards the 3pt line to get a pass from the wing... When they run it right with good screens it has so many options. Very simple play that reaps big payoffs when you set hard screens and fast cuts.

 

[theNBAnerd]

i'm not blaming jefferson -- i'm saying he's a poor passer and a poor decision maker. he is 5 or 10 times the low post scoring threat that ostertag ever dreamed of being, but ostertag understood the offense and knew how to read the coverage and make a decision from that spot. al can't even tell when he'll being cuadruple-teamed and three of his teammates are open.

 

[Archie Moses]

From what I understand, with the limited time, TCorb has mainly focused on defense so far this year in training camp and practices.

 

[theNBAnerd]

true, along with a PORTION of the offense. they haven't gotten to everything yet, and they're going pretty slowly at installing the O because of all the young players and newer veterans.