Mitt Romney

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Gameface, Feb 11, 2020.

How do you feel about Romney's vote to convict?

Poll closed Feb 25, 2020.
  1. Proud

    50.0%
  2. Embarrassed

    6.3%
  3. I don't care

    18.8%
  4. Depends on Mitt's preferred cheese

    25.0%
  1. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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  2. Gameface

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  3. Gameface

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  4. Gameface

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    Okay... I made promises. This is the most drunk posting I plan to do this month.

     
  5. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    I’m proud of Mitt.

    but I’m disheartened to see Mike Lee and Gov Gary Herbert refusing to stand up for Romney as Trump not only attacked him but attacked the man’s religion (whom Lee and Herbert share).

    Yet another example that for most repubs, “religious freedom” is just a pathetic talking point that only matters when you’re trying to attack the gays and Muslims. But if the president you’re afraid of attacks a man’s religion, it’s all good.
     
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  6. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    What did he do to attack Mitt's religion?
     
  7. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    It was probably more criticism of Romney referencing his faith as justification for Romney's vote to convict. Notably, saying Romney's religion was only a crutch:

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2020/02/07/president-trump-questions/

    Also, during the prayer breakfast, Trump said "I don't like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong."

    Well, who does, but of course quite a few believe Romney did what he knew was right.

     
  8. NAOS

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    When did people start expecting parties to be homogeneous? How do they not see that as a sever sign of ill health for democracy? God dammit.
     
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  9. One Brow

    One Brow Well-Known Member

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    If Lee and Herbert had stood up for Romney, would that have indicted more homogeneity or less?
     
  10. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Yes. It was this.

    Here was Trump attacking Romney in Herbert's face:

    https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/2...ump-mitt-romney-impeachment-gary-herbert-utah

    Herbert refusing to stand up for Romney and defend our choice of senator is a slap in the face of every Utahn. And to bring up the national debt is such a weak response.
     
  11. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Lol the guy who created a fake Twitter to **** all over the president. But he has no reason to vote against his idol. Obviously no bias whatsoever.
     
  12. RJF

    RJF Well-Known Member

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    Romney is, and always has been, an opportunist. He only got elected here because he has an R next to his name and he’s a Mormon.
     
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  13. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    you just described literally 90 percent of our legislature.
     
  14. Eenie-Meenie

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    They are cowards. I wrote an Op-Ed for the Des News but apparently they aren't publishing it as I sent over a week ago -- "Profiles in Courage" in which I compared Mitt to the Senators in JFK's famous book and then segued into Bernie Sanders, and how they're all profiles in courage.
     
  15. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    What does that have to do with what he did? Do you think it was an opportunity for him to ingratiate himself with his fellows Republicans?
     
  16. RJF

    RJF Well-Known Member

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    I think he sees an opportunity to further his political career by aligning with never trumpers. Mitt has never let what he sees as an opportunity go to waste.
     
  17. fishonjazz

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    It's weird that he didn't see the easy opportunity to do what was expected of him by his party, his state, and his president and how that opportunity would keep him in their good graces.


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  18. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Why would aligning with never Trumpers further his political career?

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  19. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    bahaha! Hilarious! I did as well. Probably about 2-3 weeks ago. Never was published. Yet somehow they’ve had time to publish these nonsensical letters:

    https://www.deseret.com/opinion/202...t-was-the-real-reason-behind-sen-romneys-vote
    https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2020/2/7/21126727/letter-time-for-congress-to-get-back-to-work
    https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2020/2/1/21113694/letter-disappointment-in-sen-romney
    https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2020/1/30/21113580/letter-time-to-focus-on-other-issues
    https://www.deseret.com/opinion/202...-remember-what-they-said-about-you-sen-romney

    The Dnews has always had an incredibly strong bias and an Opinion section full of fluff. But they’re doing all they can to protect Trump. So sad to see the dnews continue to publish this nonsense when there are surely better letters that are neglected.
     
  20. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    I ask this every damn time family members bring this up. How is going anti-Trump financially or politically advantageous to conservatives? It obviously isn’t. If they wanted to further their careers or make more money, they’d kiss Trump’s butt and hope to get a gig in the White House or on Fox News. It benefits conservatives zero to go against their president. It’s just so asinine to argue that Romney/Never Trumpers are cashing in by turning on Trump.

    Unless... one really values having a soul more than their career. Then It makes perfect sense.

    Mitt did what he did because he saw what most of the country sees; a president committing gross impeachable acts. Why do so many Republicans value careers and money over our democracy?
     
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