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What did he do?
Mother Mistakes Daughter for Intruder, Shoots and Kills Her.
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He bypassed the Legislature to enact some laws about who needs to do the background check when selling guns. Some people at gun shows, he thinks, might not really be regulated already.
I agree with Game, practically meaningless rules. The Past is not Prologue, every year "perfect" citizens buy guns and pass the background check, and then go do something wrong with them.
If anyone suspects they won't pass the background check they go private somehow, buy them from some drug-running hoodie or something, totally unregulated.
The really needless deaths/injuries are ordinary people who have no evil intent, but don't know how to handle a gun responsibly. Some sorts of laws could educate/raise awareness and stop a lot of deaths.
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Why does America have such a uniquely high gun violence rate? Additionally, what policies are conservatives bringing forth to reduce these gun violence rates? I would love to hear of some concrete examples
Because we are stressed out from saving the world from radical dictators.
Conservatives are not the problem.
Kids..
It's the American Myth of Freedom.
Like when Hitler rounded up folks for the concentration camps, nobody knew what freedom was or how to pretend you have it. The folks followed orders. No sense of empowerment, no sense of capability to take action of any kind. All around the world, people live with victim mentality except in America. Even our hopeless, downtrodden, and exploited professional victims of racism, sexism, or whatever, still have the mentality to take some kind of overt action when they are frustrated or abused.
We done watched our own TV too much, and sorta think that's what people do.
Not like in third world countries where you have no hope, or Canada, where it's Eh? the answer to everything.
Which is more difficult?
1. Going to a gun show and buying from an unregulated dealer with no background check?
2. Finding a drug-running hoodie to get you a piece?
Why some of us are so opposed to the feds doing anything to make it harder for dangerous people to get guns is beyond me. Nothing will fully solve the problem, but we have to start somewhere. We're like the guy at work that won't start a project until everything is lined up, ready to go.
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This.
And it doesn't matter which method is easier. We should try to stop both act's from happening
BP, are you aware that anyone in the business of selling firearms already has to run background checks, even at gun shows? Are you aware that people who make a portion of their living off firearms sales but who do not have an FFL are already breaking the law and are routinely prosecuted? Are you also aware that even with this new law I could set up a booth at a gun show and sell firearms without conducting background checks?
The new law is incredibly weak and vague. The private sell loophole (AKA gun show loophole) has not been closed. This was a dog and pony show and for some reason you see it as a win.
I have no problem with the concept of mandating or expanding background checks and/or training wherever possible. That being said...
There are far too many guns already in circulation to hope that tightening up background checks at gun shows will solve the problem. This is a warm fuzzy measure calculated to make you believe the gov't is trying to protect you. If someone wants a gun for nefarious purposes, there are plenty of outlets. But gun violence is merely a symptom of the problem.
Life in the USA is not what it was 20 years ago. We have become, collectively, an angry people. We are not only easily offended, but we seem to actively seek out reasons to be so. We cannot say anything disparaging about anyone, ever, even if our intent was not malicious. So now every kid grows up learning that anyone who disagrees with them is their enemy, and that they should be enraged if they sense anything that could possibly be disrespect. When everyone is angry, bad things happen.
Learning to get along and respect each other despite our differences would go a long way toward solving this problem. Much further than these knee jerk gun control actions.
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There are far too many guns already in circulation to hope that tightening up background checks at gun shows will solve the problem. This is a warm fuzzy measure calculated to make you believe the gov't is trying to protect you. If someone wants a gun for nefarious purposes, there are plenty of outlets. But gun violence is merely a symptom of the problem.
Life in the USA is not what it was 20 years ago. We have become, collectively, an angry people. We are not only easily offended, but we seem to actively seek out reasons to be so. We cannot say anything disparaging about anyone, ever, even if our intent was not malicious. So now every kid grows up learning that anyone who disagrees with them is their enemy, and that they should be enraged if they sense anything that could possibly be disrespect. When everyone is angry, bad things happen.
Learning to get along and respect each other despite our differences would go a long way toward solving this problem. Much further than these knee jerk gun control actions.
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Yes, I know it's not perfect. But ideological shifts start with ideological acts. The fact that all gun control legislation has been dead on arrival, since the Brady Act and The Assault Weapons Ban, shows that even small gestures like these EA's are just the beginning. He's moving the ball, even if it's just a yard, and it's more than what's been done in over 10 years.