My argument for the death penalty...
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G-O-A-T
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I'm normally not a big death penalty person... the potential of killing innocent people and all... but stories like this disgust me. Attacking a teenage girl walking on a trail and then dragging her to the bushes to rape and kill (or try to)... wow, I have a hard time understanding how a human could be capable of that.
This guy is just gonna waste our tax dollars rotting away in jail for the next 40 years, stealing perfectly good oxygen and returning nothing back but CO2. You know, I think there is something in the constitution about prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment... but in the case of what this guy did... what exactly should be considered cruel?
This guy is just gonna waste our tax dollars rotting away in jail for the next 40 years, stealing perfectly good oxygen and returning nothing back but CO2. You know, I think there is something in the constitution about prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment... but in the case of what this guy did... what exactly should be considered cruel?
Stifle Tower
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Tell ya what...when he gets out, how about he moves in next door to you and your family? You can be the bigger person and invite him over for BBQ's. He'll be completely reformed, so maybe even ask him to go along on a campout.
This guy is a poster child for why we should have AND enforce the death penalty. I have a daughter. I can't even imagine if this scumbag did the same thing to her. Sorry, IMO, he lost his rights the moment he raped and brutally assualted the poor woman. I don't care that she didn't die. By all rights, she probably should have: strangled and getting beaten with a large rock and concrete block.
Archie Moses
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I just read this article on KSL right before I logged on to Jazzfanz. If this wasn't posted here, I was going to post it. People like this make me so angry and sick. I can't even begin to contemplate what the girl or her family is going through at this time. I'm not going to do it, but if there was a way that someone could go Dexter on his ***, I would be all for it. I'm not kidding either. That scumbag doesn't deserve to breathe.
I strongly feel that a violent crime offender should have the same thing done to them that they do to their victim. You rape someone, you get raped (ok, prison takes care of that for us). You shoot someone, you get shot. You beat someone with a football sized rock, you get to find out how that feels too *******.
ok, it sort of got off track, but here are fifteen pages of discussion primarily on the death penalty...
https://www.abc4.com/news/local/sto...ect-to-Provo-rape/LUvB77j2NUWeCk59rzdDkg.cspx
So the newscasters say the police now have the evidence to put him behind bars "for a long time"... but I was thinking at least life, and if it was possible, this guy shouldn't have the privilege of breathing at the cost of my tax dollars.
It looks like there really is no question that he did it... so is there any rational reason this guy shouldn't sit in the electric chair / gas chamber? Maybe test out how long he keeps consciousness after execution by guillotine
See here you guys go again thinking about the victims of these crimes. You need to stop thinking about them and focus on the real victims, you know the ones who committed the crimes and are facing accountability for what they've done. Surely you can't be cruel enough to think that they should actually do time or even be executed for what they have done. Okay, I'm done with the sarcasm. I'm also done talking to people who want to defend the lives of people who kill little kids (Ethan Stacy's mom and stepdad). Oh, but I guess we aren't sure that they did it. Right?
Craig K. Manscill
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Hey Surely,,,
I liked your thoughts on this subject. We should kill people who kill people. Just keep killing people. Killing is bad, but if they do it, we should be able to too, and we should keep killing each other over and over. Some people say we should have the moral higher ground to not kill, but I think it's the right thing to do and something God would want us to do for our afterlife potential. Grains of sand aren't always obtainable without merit, but you have to do the right thing without cause.
- Craig
I liked your thoughts on this subject. We should kill people who kill people. Just keep killing people. Killing is bad, but if they do it, we should be able to too, and we should keep killing each other over and over. Some people say we should have the moral higher ground to not kill, but I think it's the right thing to do and something God would want us to do for our afterlife potential. Grains of sand aren't always obtainable without merit, but you have to do the right thing without cause.
- Craig
Hey Craig,
I appreciated your thoughts. Yeah, we should take people who force their kids to eat rat poison then take a baseball bat to them when they aren't dying quick enough, and give them room and board for life (or 40 years until they make parole). I mean really, what is a kids life worth these days? 5 years? 10 years? Well, he did kill all three of the kids, so perhaps he could get 30 years. Listen, I'm not saying that we should use the death penalty in situations where there is some doubt about the guilt of the suspect. However, in cases like the aforementioned, and Ethan Stacy's, there is no doubt as to whether they actually did it. But people like you seem to think, for some reason that I cannot understand, that the life of the perpetrator is more valuable than the life of the victim. Why is that?
Craig K. Manscill
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Hey Surely,,,
No, I actually agree with you. We should kill them to save money and because they killed someone. I think if someone were to kill me, I would most certainly want to kill them. The amount of money we would save by killing them could be used in school programs to educate people on why they shouldn't commit heinous crimes, because they'll be killed. I'd imagine it'd be a very simple lesson.
-Craig
No, I actually agree with you. We should kill them to save money and because they killed someone. I think if someone were to kill me, I would most certainly want to kill them. The amount of money we would save by killing them could be used in school programs to educate people on why they shouldn't commit heinous crimes, because they'll be killed. I'd imagine it'd be a very simple lesson.
-Craig