My argument for the death penalty...

[Gameface]

The problems I have with capital punishment have nothing to do with any concern for the suffering of murderers.

In order for me to support capital punishment the process used to determine guilt would have to be almost perfect. I'd say less than one in 10,000 chance that an innocent person could be put to death. I'd bet we're currently wrong more than 1% of the time. That's a bald guess, but I know that mistakes are made, and innocent people are convicted. So for me, I don't support the death penalty because I don't support the possibility of innocent people being killed by our government in my name.

If there was a difference in the safety provided to society by killing vs imprisoning my standard would be much lower.

I also dislike the idea of hiring people to kill a person who has been pacified. It seems like a contradiction to me.

 

[billyshelby]

I've knowm a lot of peoples who died by accident. Car accidents, huntin accidents, gittin drunk and fallin offa cliff accidents, you name it. My only comment on that is this here:

It's UNACCEPTABLE.

I'm not getting sucked into your vortex of rhetoric. If you choose to answer a question, or make anything other than a cryptic point, I might waste a minute of my life responding to it. But you obviously know we can limit how much we participate in the accidents of the universe.

 

[Stifle Tower]

And you don't think actually bein conscious when they inject ya aint pure, unmitigated TORTURE!?

You're aware that a "cocktail" is used, right?
First drug admnistered knocks you out, just like anesthesia before surgery. Then the paralyzing drug is injected to stop breathing followed by a toxic agent to stop electrical signals (i.e. induce a heart attack).

The process of lethal injection mimics what happens when someone "dies in their sleep." So no, it is NOT torture.

 

[Hopper]

Lemme know when you refuse to drive a car anymore because you refuse take any possible chance of "participating" in an accident, there, eh, Biley? Then I might believe ya.

 

[billyshelby]

Lemme know when you refuse to drive a car anymore because you refuse take any possible chance of "participating" in an accident, there, eh, Biley? Then I might believe ya.

You're an idiot. I'm out.

 

[Hopper]

You're an idiot. I'm out.

Don't forget to gimme a red rep hit, now, hear?

 

[billyshelby]

Don't forget to gimme a red rep hit, now, hear?

Never given anyone a negative rep and never will.

 

[Hopper]

Never given anyone a negative rep and never will.

Well, OK, then! That's respectable, at least. I've never given one either....well, except to you, of course.

 

[Scat]

There is no doubt that Gardner did what he is being executed for. I have no problem with it. And if he suffers a bit during the process so be it.

 

[Hopper]

The age old moral question with the death penalty will always hold... No one has ever been able to answer this question satisfactorily. Locking someone up for life is punishment enough, and its the cost of doing business in civilized society.

Well, I dunno bout yawl, but I'm sho nuff glad Biley came into enlighten me. I never knew that "age-old moral questions," one's which nobuddy else could ever "answer satisfactorily," had such simple answers, ya know?

 

[Hopper]

There is no doubt that Gardner did what he is being executed for. I have no problem with it. And if he suffers a bit during the process so be it.

Yeah, Marcus. The onliest real question, I figure, is whether he's gunna suffer enuff. My own damn self, I don't think so! Homey don't play dat.

 

[Hopper]

There is no doubt that Gardner did what he is being executed for.

Here's the problem, though, see? Even if you wuz 100% certain Gardner done it, like if one million people seen him do it and recorded it all on video, there could STILL be some other guy, some other time, who didn't do what he was accused of. For that reason you CANNOT justifiably execute this Gardner guy. Surely any fool can see the logic there, eh?