My argument for the death penalty...

[billyshelby]

Yeah, Loki, this is where it says, for example:

"The costs [in the State of Kansas] of carrying out (i.e. incarceration and/or execution) a death sentence were about half the costs of carrying out a non-death sentence in a comparable case."

Other States claim higher costs, which raises the question of why should (must) they be higher?

Well aint, if bothered to actually click the link on the page you found that has exactly one statistic amongst thousands corroborating the fact that it is substantially cheaper to not to pursue the Death Penalty, you would have your answer. I'll give you a hint, though. The Kansas study is based on 7 whole cases.

 

[Hopper]

Well aint, if bothered to actually click the link on the page you found that has exactly one statistic amongst thousands corroborating the fact that it is substantially cheaper to not to pursue the Death Penalty, you would have your answer. I'll give you a hint, though. The Kansas study is based on 7 whole cases.

Don't take offense, Biley, but I don't feel like "arguing" with you right now. Someone like Eric can discuss things rationally, and I actually prefer that sometimes, ya know?

 

[One Brow]

Yet another claim you won't bother to present evidence for?

Heh, this is an absurd claim. Although it certainly happens (i.e., personal and political consideration result in non-prosecution), it does not happen in every case, and "can't" prosecute is NOT synomynous with "won't" prosecute in any event.

"Can" refers to ability. If you are not able to conduct a prosecution from personal and political considerations, you can't conduct it.

However, perhaps that's just my understanding of the word. I don't intend to argue that point.

 

[billyshelby]

Don't take offense, Biley, but I don't feel like "arguing" with you right now. Someone like Eric can discuss things rationally, and I actually prefer that sometimes, ya know?

Oh, you mean that debate you have going on about theoretical principles that have no basis in reality relative to the argument at hand so you can pretend that you're thinking on a higher level and not be wrong?

 

[Hopper]

Granted, it does seem like Eric done hauled ***, and aint just composin one of his long-*** posts. But I really don't wanna muck up this thread no more at this point by engaging you in any "discussion." I prefer honest debate, at least sometimes.

 

[One Brow]

This is true, as you have since qualified it, after execution has occurred. A true tragedy, if and when it happens, so now what?

Did you mean, as I qualified what other people said? I don't recall saying anything other than ameliorated.

Now, since the tragedy is greater, we enact better safegaurds to prevent.

 

[billyshelby]

Granted, it does seem like Eric done hauled ***, and aint just composin one of his long-*** posts. But I really don't wanna muck up this thread no more at this point by engaging you in any "discussion." I prefer honest debate, at least sometimes.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

 

[Hopper]

Yet another claim you won't bother to present evidence for?

Jeez, Eric, cmon. You make a claim that is totally unsupported, and now you think I have some burden to disprove it? Do you honestly believe that no one has ever been criminally charged for obstruction of justice? What is your point, anyway? That the State is out to deliberately execute innocent people because they are (in your mind) absolutely immune from accountability? Don't go Write4u on me, now, eh?

 

[Hopper]

Did you mean, as I qualified what other people said? I don't recall saying anything other than ameliorated.

Now, since the tragedy is greater, we enact better safegaurds to prevent.

The first point is trivial. Literally you said a "conviction" was irreversible, which is far from the case so long as the guy hasn't been executed yet--which qualification you made in a subsequent post.

As for the second point, what "better safeguards" do you have in mind? You mentioned a "higher standard of proof," is that it? What standard would you propose?

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Jeez, Eric, cmon. You make a claim that is totally unsupported, and now you think I have some burden to disprove it? Do you honestly believe that no one has ever been criminally charged for obstruction of justice? What is your point, anyway? That the State is out to deliberately execute innocent people because they are (in your mind) absolutely immune from accountability? Do go Write4u on me, now, eh?

Using RL names in posts = **** just got real

 

[billyshelby]

The only thing real going on is aint's no fan of reality.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Ahhh. ain't and onebrow taking their gloves off. The good old days are back again.

Anyone wanna bet on how many pages this thread goes?