Name the 5 starters and

[fishonjazz]

Before Burke joined the team, I thought giving Burks spot minutes at pg was a great idea, not because I thought he would be a very good, but because we had the two worst point guards in the league playing for us. Now I would rather Cotton got minutes at pg over Burks. (Actually, I'd rather Cotton got minutes at point guard over Burke, but I will keep an open mind until we see if Burke has learned anything over the summer.)

I don't disagree

 

[Ellipse]

I agree.
Draft turner or Frank and we good

I can see this, but I keep wondering why we should spend a lottery pick for a fourth big unless he is bpa. We could use one of our 2nd round picks to get a big and then we wouldn't have to worry about him sulking about minutes.

 

[Jazz Traveler]

We need a back up center and one more insurance big in case of injury or foul trouble.

Get rid of Burke. I think Cotton can not only match his production but surpass it. Burke is not a good fit for this team.

I think we"ll see a 3 man rotation of Burks, Hood and Hayward at the wing spot with a little bit of Jingles thrown in.

Exum's minutes should increase to 30 to 32.

We could use an experienced backup point if Burke is moved.

 

[Ellipse]

Let's talk offense for a moment and come back to d.

Who brings the ball up, reads the d, calls the play, gets players in position, and distributes the ball (while not getting the ball hawked/crowded)?

Burks is not a good enough 3pt shooter to have the d back off him and not a good enough ball handler to be breaking traps and quick double teams at the half-court corners, on the regular.

Of course that's just my opinion and I am attempting to engage you to your way of thinking.

Actually, last year the Jazz ran a lot of offensive plays that started with Hayward or Ingles bringing the ball up the floor while Exum went to the corner. There isn't any reason to believe they can't do the same with Hood and Burks in place of Exum and Ingles. I doubt Quin would use that lineup more than a few minutes a game, but I expect to see it next year.

 

[green]

I keep wondering when this myth will end. Burke never had to shoulder the scoring load; it was his domination of the ball and style of play that prevented his teammates from having an opportunity to score. Hayward got his by passing the ball to anyone but Burke.

Seeing how both Burke and Snyder have said repeatedly he was moved to provide scoring from the bench...

I believe that over your made up myths.

 

[NAOS]

Okay. Is everyone off-the-ball in this line up?

This has the feeling of a free-for-all offense. I am not suggesting every play has to be dominated by a prototype PG, but I can't see playing long stretches without one.

You can build good offensive structure with Hayward and Hood as half-court initiators.

Burks is in there for the initial Parker-esq burn down the court. He drives to score. If his green-lighted scoring options aren't available, then Hood and Hayward take over.

This is anything but a structureless notion.

 

[Ellipse]

Seeing how both Burke and Snyder have said repeatedly he was moved to provide scoring from the bench...

I believe that over your made up myths.

Had Burke actually been a scorer, I might believe that was Quin's true motivation for the lineup change.

 

[Jeffrey32]

I like starting Alec to have another play make on the floor especially if Exum is just a spot up shooter again.


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[♪alt13]

Let's talk offense for a moment and come back to d.

Who brings the ball up, reads the d, calls the play, gets players in position, and distributes the ball (while not getting the ball hawked/crowded)?

Burks is not a good enough 3pt shooter to have the d back off him and not a good enough ball handler to be breaking traps and quick double teams at the half-court corners, on the regular.

Of course that's just my opinion and I am attempting to engage you to your way of thinking.

The idea of Burks being able to swing to the one next to Hood and Hayward is more reasonable than what the Jazz have already tried: That Exum can swing to the 2 next to Burke. Now there is a back court that can't shoot and frankly neither one of them has been very good at initiating the offense. I think we give Burks the opportunity to show that he can play the combo guard.

 

[green]

Had Burke actually been a scorer, I might believe that was Quin's true motivation for the lineup change.

You can try to interpret all you want. Fact is, both have said he was moved to be the scorer off the bench.

 

[♪alt13]

You can try to interpret all you want. Fact is, both have said he was moved to be the scorer off the bench.

It doesn't matter. With a healthy Burks we have better bench scoring than Burke anyway.

 

[green]

It doesn't matter. With a healthy Burks we have better bench scoring than Burke anyway.

Absolutely. That's actually why I think Burke takes a big step forward. He will have Hood and Burks and hopefully Exum who all increase their shots, which will takes shots away from him and make him more effective. Burke was 5 for 13 last year. If he could get to the 4 for 8 or 9, that's the sweet spot for him. His scoring stays the same, but he takes 25% less shots. He would be an incredible backup then.