Name the 5 starters and

[♪alt13]

Let's talk offense for a moment and come back to d.

Who brings the ball up, reads the d, calls the play, gets players in position, and distributes the ball (while not getting the ball hawked/crowded)?

Burks is not a good enough 3pt shooter to have the d back off him and not a good enough ball handler to be breaking traps and quick double teams at the half-court corners, on the regular.

Of course that's just my opinion and I am attempting to engage you to your way of thinking.

The idea of Burks being able to swing to the one next to Hood and Hayward is more reasonable than what the Jazz have already tried: That Exum can swing to the 2 next to Burke. Now there is a back court that can't shoot and frankly neither one of them has been very good at initiating the offense. I think we give Burks the opportunity to show that he can play the combo guard.

 

[green]

Had Burke actually been a scorer, I might believe that was Quin's true motivation for the lineup change.

You can try to interpret all you want. Fact is, both have said he was moved to be the scorer off the bench.

 

[♪alt13]

You can try to interpret all you want. Fact is, both have said he was moved to be the scorer off the bench.

It doesn't matter. With a healthy Burks we have better bench scoring than Burke anyway.

 

[green]

It doesn't matter. With a healthy Burks we have better bench scoring than Burke anyway.

Absolutely. That's actually why I think Burke takes a big step forward. He will have Hood and Burks and hopefully Exum who all increase their shots, which will takes shots away from him and make him more effective. Burke was 5 for 13 last year. If he could get to the 4 for 8 or 9, that's the sweet spot for him. His scoring stays the same, but he takes 25% less shots. He would be an incredible backup then.

 

[green]

Anyways, still proves that Burke was asked to score last year. He was moved to the bench because he took shots away from Hayward AND there was no bench scoring. We were getting crushed when the starters came off the floor.

That won't happen this year (hopefully). Hopefully Exum gets up to 8 or 9 shots a game, and Hood and Burks stay healthy which should take away 4-5 shots from Burke, hopefully making him more effective.

Burke going 4 for 9 is a great backup PG.

Burke going 2 or 3 for 9 is a terrible backup.

 

[♪alt13]

Anyways, still proves that Burke was asked to score last year. He was moved to the bench because he took shots away from Hayward AND there was no bench scoring. We were getting crushed when the starters came off the floor.

That won't happen this year (hopefully). Hopefully Exum gets up to 8 or 9 shots a game, and Hood and Burks stay healthy which should take away 4-5 shots from Burke, hopefully making him more effective.

Burke going 4 for 9 is a great backup PG.

Burke going 2 or 3 for 9 is a terrible backup.

Bold is correct

Do we want him taking shots away from Hood/Burks?

Trade Burke

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Seeing how both Burke and Snyder have said repeatedly he was moved to provide scoring from the bench...

I believe that over your made up myths.

What do you expect Q to say? I moved Burke to the bench cuz he sucks? Pretty telling when a 19 year old project with a ridiculously limited offensive game becomes the starter by default. That only happens when your starting pg sucks ***. Any rationalization of that situation is nothing but sugarcoating the truth.

 

[NAOS]

What do you expect Q to say? I moved Burke to the bench cuz he sucks? Pretty telling when a 19 year old project with a ridiculously limited offensive game becomes the starter by default. That only happens when your starting pg sucks ***. Any rationalization of that situation is nothing but sugarcoating the truth.

the brutal truth, in smurf blue.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

What do you expect Q to say? I moved Burke to the bench cuz he sucks? Pretty telling when a 19 year old project with a ridiculously limited offensive game becomes the starter by default. That only happens when your starting pg sucks ***. Any rationalization of that situation is nothing but sugarcoating the truth.

You hit the smurfing nail on the smurfing head

 

[green]

When they say they moved him to the bench to carry the bench scoring, then Burke goes out and shoots like he did...I think they moved him to the bench to shoot.

 

[LogGrad98]

You hit the smurfing nail on the smurfing head

Watch your smurfing mouth you mother ****er.



Did I do that right?

 

[Coach Ellis]

How about a different look?

1.) Trade #12, Trey Burke and the OKC pick to move up to draft C/PF: Myles Turner (Texas).
2.) Trade #42 and #54 to move up to draft SG: Pat Connaughton (Notre Dame).
3.) Use their available cap space, to bring back SF: DeMarre "Junkyard Dog" Carroll (Atlanta) on a 4 year contract.
4.) Slide Alec "Houdini" Burks into Trey Burke's vacated role as the 6th man offensive spark behind Exum.
5.) Keep PF: Trevor "Badass" Booker, SF: Joseph "Jingles" Ingles, SG: Elijah "LilSap" Millsap and Bryce Cotton "Candy"
6.) Everyone else the Jazz bring in (Pleiss, Evans, Motum, Cooley, Chris Johnson, free agents and undrafted rookies) can all battle it out for the last two roster spots.

Playoff Rotation

Gobert / Favors / Carroll / Hayward / Exum / Burks / Hood / Booker / Turner and/or maybe some Jingles if they need a smaller lineup to match up better.

 

[NAOS]

How about a different look?

1.) Trade #12, Trey Burke and the OKC pick to move up to draft C/PF: Myles Turner (Texas).
2.) Trade #42 and #54 to move up to draft SG: Pat Connaughton (Notre Dame).
3.) Use their available cap space, to bring back SF: DeMarre "Junkyard Dog" Carroll (Atlanta) on a 4 year contract.
4.) Slide Alec "Houdini" Burks into Trey Burke's vacated role as the 6th man offensive spark behind Exum.
5.) Keep PF: Trevor "Badass" Booker, SF: Joseph "Jingles" Ingles, SG: Elijah "LilSap" Millsap and Bryce Cotton "Candy"
6.) Everyone else the Jazz bring in (Pleiss, Evans, Motum, Cooley, Chris Johnson, free agents and undrafted rookies) can all battle it out for the last two roster spots.

Playoff Rotation

Gobert / Favors / Carroll / Hayward / Exum / Burks / Hood / Booker / Turner and/or maybe some Jingles if they need a smaller lineup to match up better.

I've called for many of these things. But I'm not giving up **** to move up for Turner. Change Turner to Johnson and this vision corresponds to mine precisely.