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The violence against American citizens, as well as against those whose only crime is being an undocumented human being in the United States, is absolutely not normal.

Here’s a woman who told ICE agents she was disabled, and only trying to drive to a doctor appointment. No, this was not at all normal under Biden, under Obama, under Bush, under Clinton, nope, not in the least normal before our first, and hopefully only, fascist president.

Not normal:

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Not normal. ICE is instructed not to shoot at fleeing cars. Not normaL:

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Red said:
The violence against American citizens, as well as against those whose only crime is being an undocumented human being in the United States, is absolutely not normal.

Here’s a woman who told ICE agents she was disabled, and only trying to drive to a doctor appointment. No, this was not at all normal under Biden, under Obama, under Bush, under Clinton, nope, not in the least normal before our first, and hopefully only, fascist president.

Not normal:

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Not normal. ICE is instructed not to shoot at fleeing cars. Not normaL:

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I could see Nixon getting behind this sort of caper.

Dirty Hippies!!! They wont get Nixon!!!
 
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Rubashov said:
I could see Nixon getting behind this sort of caper.

Dirty Hippies!!! They wont get Nixon!!!
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There’s that, but Nixon stepped down, rather than postpone the inevitable. Nixon was highly intelligent as well. Just a couple differences. But, that doesn’t really speak to the culture war at that time. Hippies vs. Rednecks.

I lived through all that, and it pales in comparison. And it’s not recency bias. But yeah, it was hippies vs. rednecks in Nixon’s time. It’s possible future histories, able to see a broader perspective, will weave the two eras together, as part of the great Left/Right rift that has run throughout modern Western history. And the culture war then was not completely unrelated to today’s culture wars.

I say the Vietnam era pales, but the anti-war movement had an impact, and demonstrations in D.C. itself were much bigger. Students for a Democratic Society(SDS) were willing to be violent. Those were tumultuous times. So maybe it is recency bias to a degree.

I think if I feel partisanship is far worse today, and that somehow the late 60’s/early 70’s pale compared to now, that it must be the internet and social media that has driven partisanship to near Civil War level. I think that must have really helped to ratchet up anger.

Anyway, I sidetracked. No love lost by Nixon over hippies like me!
 
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There’s that, but Nixon stepped down, rather than postpone the inevitable. Nixon was highly intelligent as well. Just a couple differences. But, that doesn’t really speak to the culture war at that time. Hippies vs. Rednecks.

I lived through all that, and it pales in comparison. And it’s not recency bias. But yeah, it was hippies vs. rednecks in Nixon’s time. It’s possible future histories, able to see a broader perspective, will weave the two eras together, as part of the great Left/Right rift that has run throughout modern Western history. And the culture war then was not completely unrelated to today’s culture wars.

I say the Vietnam era pales, but the anti-war movement had an impact, and demonstrations in D.C. itself were much bigger. Students for a Democratic Society(SDS) were willing to be violent. Those were tumultuous times. So maybe it is recency bias to a degree.

I think if I feel partisanship is far worse today, and that somehow the late 60’s/early 70’s pale compared to now, that it must be the internet and social media that has driven partisanship to near Civil War level. I think that must have really helped to ratchet up anger.

Anyway, I sidetracked. No love lost by Nixon over hippies like me!
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Im actually watching a documentary about the vietnam war right now. Its 17 hours long and extremely well done. Interviews with 80 people from all different perspectives. And it goes really far into the politics of the war from south vietnam, north vietnam, the viet cong, and the US.

The part I just watched was about how Nixon was running for president and it was a few weeks before the election and it was a close race. There was to be a meeting between saigon (south vietnam), Hanoi (north vietnam/vietcong) and the US in paris france. It was all set up to take place.
Lyndon Johnson had the phones in the Saigon government bugged and came across a phone call from Nixon to the south vietnamese government where he told them not to attend the meeting because if peace were achieved then it would help his opponent in the upcoming election. So Nixon was ok with more killing as long as it helped him get elected. And sadly it worked because Lyndon Johnson couldn't tell anyone about Nixons treasonous scheme because he would have to let everyone know that he had the FBI listening in on south vietnamese phone calls. What a **** show.

My dad fought in vietnam and after watching this program I came to learn that early on in vietnam americans were not engaging in any combat. They were simply advising South Vietnamese soldiers and doing engineering projects and stuff. So I asked my mom when my dad arrived in vietman. She said in late 1966. Which was when some of the bloodiest and deadliest battles of the war occurred. He spoke a little bit about his time there but not much at all. Talked about how hard it was to sleep because of all the mortars and machine gun fire constantly going off all night. Said he was always wet (got jungle rot in his foot) and scared. That is about all I got from him about it.
When my mom texted me telling me he went in 66 and I responded that was a really bad time to be there she texted my back this: "Yes it was. We were really lucky to get him back. He cant see or hear anything about that war without completely flipping out-crying and shaking. It was an awful thing he had to go through"

Brought tears to my eyes to read that after watching this documentary. Horrifying stuff.

The US dropped more bombs in vietnam than all of WW2. Crazy stuff.
 
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