NBA Playoffs
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This **** blows my mind. Why are he and Quin not load-managing THE **** out of these ancients (that are also the smallest dudes on the court)?
l Abach l
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Anyone else kind of bummed out we are seeing the death of the traditional NBA center? Ayton got played off the court... Look at the final 4 teams. All small ball. Bigs are getting mauled on every single possession yet refs don't call anything. Idk. Really makes me think we should trade Gobert and go smaller. Centers just aren't valuable in the playoffs anymore.
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I remember going to this game on 4/8.
Suns vs. Jazz - Game Summary - April 8, 2022 - ESPN
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And I couldn’t believe that:
A) any of the suns big players were playing. It was a worthless game for them, they had the #1 seed locked up.
B) Why the hell did they burn CP3 and Booker so much? I get maybe wanting to keep them in shape. So play them 5 mins a half. They both played more mins than anyone on the jazz, including Mitchell and Gobert. Seemed like a waste.
Like… why?
As a fan I was glad to see the stars. We bought the tickets weeks and weeks before. But it made no sense to me at that time and wondered if it might come back to bite them in the butt…
Two years ago - years after the death of the center had been proclaimed, the Lakers bullied their way to a ring and got a bunch of mediocre bigs paid in the following off-season.
To be an unskilled big, you have to be elite at the garbage man stuff. Gobert is not a dude that can put a team on his back in the playoffs but - like any player - with the right players around him can be effective. Most teams don’t have those pieces.
Also, it seems the Celtics have bigs.
Also, it seems Bam is a big. And a very good one.
I think it is a good thing that success or failure isn’t predicated on who has the best giant anymore. Maybe it’s gone the other way a little too far but ogre ball is ****ing crappy and boring anyway.
So? Are you trying to make this a part of a bigger discussion?
He was terrible this series and even Giannis with his godly performance couldn't carry him past Celtics. He sucked. I think that's pretty clear.
I think Quin did a better job of it. At least, Conley's problems didn't feel physical to me.
Conley had only 30 games with 30+ minutes. Chris Paul had 49. And you could make the argument that Jazz had more incentive to play their guys because they needed some unity.
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I definitely don’t miss ogre ball. I do miss guys valuing possessions. I can’t stand that 9/10 fast breaks have 3 on 2 adv for the offense and a guy wide open for a dunk and the ball handler instead elects to brick a 3. I miss those thunderous fast break dunks we used to see. Instead, everyone tries to be Steph and Klay and it just drives me crazy. Take the guaranteed 2.
LoPo
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This has been coming for quite some time now. Feeding the post and going to work has started to die out. I used to love watching it, but those days are gone.
Players are so athletic and skilled these days. Centers like Bam and Horford are really all the big man you need. These teams can sprinkle in a guy like Williams, but its not sustainable with so much skill and shooting on the floor.
Thats why I love a guy like John Collins. He's probably got another 10+ years as a valuable player. He can play PF or C, he can shoot, rebound, attack off the dribble and his defense is improving.
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Avery
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So, find the next Dok, roger that.
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Collins can’t shoot though. He’s not a skilled player. He’s more JSmooth than Al Horford