NBA Stars' Comments and Reactions to Rookie Donovan Mitchell

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by jope, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. ♪alt13

    ♪alt13 Well-Known Member

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    Rubio would be a FA the same year as KL. They could sign RR after KL and exceed the cap.
    Wouldn't 6 players at league minimum be closer to 3.5-4 million than 12. I'm not seeing how you made the jump from 68 million (6 players plus rubios hold) to 80 million.

    edit: not that all those spots would go to league minimum as the Jazz would still be able to use the MLE to bring dudes in
     
  2. NUMBERICA

    NUMBERICA Well-Known Member

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    Go big or go home. I'm not about hedge moves or Portland ********.

    Players like Favors, Exum, and Rubio hardly move the needle and if the cost for going big is letting good - but replaceable - players go, then sign me up.

    And you forgot Jimmy Butler. There's also another tier of very good players below them.
     
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  3. Jack Strop

    Jack Strop Well-Known Member

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    That would be my attitude if I were a fan of any team EXCEPT Utah. We'll see if the attitude has changed around the league, but never has any star had Utah on his list of preferred destinations, either in free agency or via trade.

    Boozer, Mirotic, Memo...and aging players who used to be stars: those are the players Utah has been able to attract.
     
  4. NUMBERICA

    NUMBERICA Well-Known Member

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    And there was a black guy with a weird name that gave a great speech at the 2004 DNC convention that did something nobody would've imagined, let alone ever did, because he struck when the iron was hot.
     
  5. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Boozer and Memo both being all-stars. Not that I’d say don’t target a bigger fish, but I think we just need one solid guy and if they were at a Boozer/Memo caliber (same caliber not same flaws) then I’d say we’re contenders. Hell, that could be Mirotic if he were an 18 PPG guy.
     
  6. cowhide

    cowhide Well-Known Member

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    Magic Johnson and Larry Bird.
     
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  7. cowhide

    cowhide Well-Known Member

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    I know this is a sports board and it's purpose is to discuss Jazz basketball but the debate between who is the ROY seems to be impossible to decide. It is like Magic vs Bird, that argument continues today. If your from Boston then it is Bird and if you are from LA it is Magic. They're both great players just like DM and BS so maybe they both deserve it.

    I am not going to bash BS and try to down play his abilities because he is putting up some impressive numbers. Saying his shot is a weakness well Magic wasn't the best shooter in the world either. I think BS has had the advantage going in because he was knighted ROY from the start so what DM has done is amazing. To basically come out of nowhere, he now has just as good a case as anyone to be the ROY. As a Jazzfan, I would love it if DM wins, how can anyone not love DM and his attitude? I will be a little disappointed but it isn't like they are giving it to an undeserving player in BS.

    However, the NBA needs to change the rule, you are only a rookie once regardless if you are injured. That is my main reason why I would vote for DM. Performance wise they are both pretty equal in the way they have played even though their games a not similar. DM is the TRUE rookie of the year.
     
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  8. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    That gif is the GOAT and its not even close.
     
  9. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    What is that first word?
     
  10. NUMBERICA

    NUMBERICA Well-Known Member

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    Motherfather.
     
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  11. MDAV28

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    No they cannot, this is the purpose of a cap hold. You have to renounce the bird rights (which allow you to sign your player even without cap space) to have the cap space. In this hypothetical situation, you have to renounce Rubio, sign KL, and use an exception (probably like $9 million non-taxpayer MLE) to resign Rubio
     
  12. MDAV28

    MDAV28 Well-Known Member

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    No way, you don't touch the Warriors, or even the Rockets right now, with that. I'm all on the shooting for a star bandwagon. You can tell free agency destinations are shifting away from big market into best chance to win.
     
  13. yamers

    yamers Well-Known Member

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    i think the jazz f.o. values favors more than you think
     
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  14. jazzfan1132

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    THIS IS BIG DREAM unless something happened in SA. In two years P.Gasol is old enough, changing of the guards could last and the big factor is POP how long he wants to coach, maybe we have a chance for KL.
    Next Question is all other 29 teams wants him right away so ...
     
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  15. Jack Strop

    Jack Strop Well-Known Member

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    I'm calculating 6 players + 2 1st round picks (this year and next) PLUS Rubio's cap hold. As I said, I'm not 100% sure on Rubio's hold. I know it's generally higher than the previous contract. By how much (150%?), I'm not sure.

    That get's Utah to 9 players and they have to add 4 more as minimum cap holds. That would be ~80M once they renounce everyone else (except Ricky).
     
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  16. jope

    jope Well-Known Member

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    Lillard has gone on record about wanting to play for Utah many times. He’s locked up forever though.
     
  17. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    I know board members like to get off reading about what other players, celebs, people and other board members say about Mitchell so I thought I'd switch it up a lil and give you something a lil different.

    Who gives a **** about what people say about Mitchell when we can hear what Mitchell has to say, right? (Please don't take my words seriously. Read them knowing that more often than not, there's an attempt at humor in it, whether you like it or hate it. hehepeepeecaca)

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...scar-robertson-donovan-mitchell-20180216.html

     
  18. Joe Bagadonuts

    Joe Bagadonuts Well-Known Member

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    What is it about watching Simmons behavior that reminds me of watching Hillary? Hmmm.
     

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