NBA Statement: NBAPA will not agree to smoothing the salary cap

[jimmy eat jazz]

My impression is that this decision reflects a disproportionate influence of stars at the expense of role and bench players, as they clearly appear to benefit most from it.

I would also guess that there are several role and bench players who object to this decision, but, as is often the case where power asymmetries exist, they are intimidated from speaking up and voicing their concerns. What lowly bench player is going to take on LeBron or CP3, either in private or public?

If any of this is true, then in my opinion, the head of the Union (what's her name?) is not doing her job, which is to represent the interests of ALL players, not just, or disproportionately, the stars.

I understand that stars are what drives the league and its success, but I don't see that as all that relevant here.

 

[mrob]

My impression is that this decision reflects a disproportionate influence of stars at the expense of role and bench players, as they clearly appear to benefit most from it.

I would also guess that there are several role and bench players who object to this decision, but, as is often the case where power asymmetries exist, they are intimidated from speaking up and voicing their concerns. What lowly bench player is going to take on LeBron or CP3, either in private or public?

If any of this is true, then in my opinion, the head of the Union (what's her name?) is not doing her job, which is to represent the interests of ALL players, not just, or disproportionately, the stars.

I understand that stars are what drives the league and its success, but I don't see that as all that relevant here.

I guess they figure that eventually all players will benefit and that there is no reason to artificially hold down salaries. It doesn't seem that the huge bump in the salary cap favors stars. It seems like it favors those who are in the position to be a free agent that year ... star or otherwise. Players that are locked down for a year or two into the new salary cap will lose a lot of money in this deal.

 

[vegas]

I guess they figure that eventually all players will benefit and that there is no reason to artificially hold down salaries. It doesn't seem that the huge bump in the salary cap favors stars. It seems like it favors those who are in the position to be a free agent that year ... star or otherwise. Players that are locked down for a year or two into the new salary cap will lose a lot of money in this deal.

In the nicest way possible you need to read about this more before posting. If smoothing happened, all players would get more money. So take Favors who is under contract for ~$12 mill. If smoothing happens he gets his $12 mill, but there is another 30% more salary that the players get. With smoothing the NBAPA would divvy out the extra 30%. If everybody got a 30% raise he gets an extra $3.6 mil. There's some assumptions there, but those dollars must go to the players one way or another.

As for Lebron without smoothing. Here is an article that explains he will earn another $43 mill over the course of his upcoming 4 year contract. So ~$10 mill/yr extra. Over $30 mill per year.
https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-max-contract-tv-2014-10

 

[mrob]

In the nicest way possible you need to read about this more before posting. If smoothing happened, all players would get more money. So take Favors who is under contract for ~$12 mill. If smoothing happens he gets his $12 mill, but there is another 30% more salary that the players get. With smoothing the NBAPA would divvy out the extra 30%. If everybody got a 30% raise he gets an extra $3.6 mil. There's some assumptions there, but those dollars must go to the players one way or another.

I understand that the money would go to the players. I hadn't heard any specifics about how it would have been divided up. I'm just trying to understand why the NBAPA rejected the plan. I would like to hear more specifics about what they found objectionable. Right now, I can only suspect that it was money now vs. money later.

 

[carolinajazz]

Why would you hope for that? So the billionaire owners can gain even more?

...two very good reasons! 1) Less NBA basketball to watch means less pain on my eyeballs! 2) Less money the players get....the more they will have to cut back on all those disgusting jailhouse tats they put on there bodies! Of course, since they already have them tatted to the max.....they probably couldn't put another one on themselves even if it was done for free!

 

[flex633]

I think you are missing a few things here. I am still trying to wrap my head around all of the implications, but this has already impacted signings imo.

• I think it played a big part in Hayward getting matched/maxed.
• Now that teams know that the jump will take place, there will be more players overpaid this summer
• Teams will be willing to pay the tax for a year that wouldn't have otherwise
• Expiring contracts will have way less value
• Players under contract will have way more value
• Teams will end up out of cash again after the jump and won't be able to resign some FAs under old contracts that will be due pay raise ala Harden/OKC. (esp old rookie contracts)

Yep. Agreed on all, makes the Faves/Hayward contracts absolute bargains. Although expirings haven't had much value for a while now.

Actually think this is the offseason where guys get overpaid the most. Middleton is going to get 12+ a year, Dray's gonna get close a max offer, ditto tobias, heck demarre's gonna get paid too.

 

[vegas]

I'm going to bump this.

The cap could jump from $90 million in 2016-17 to as much as $105 million the year after, per league sources, giving the Thunder a chance to add again without going into the luxury tax.

https://grantland.com/the-triangle/we-need-to-talk-about-kevin-on-life-without-durant-for-the-oklahoma-city-thunder/

The article is not about the cap, but rather how screwed the thunder are right now.

 

[LogGrad98]

It is crazy how much the money has changed compared to inflation over the last 30 years.

 

[vegas]

New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams:
2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6
2016-17: 89 million, tax 108
2017-18: 108 million, tax 127

Jonathan Givony, Draft Express

Not a huge change from earlier projections. Recalibrate your salary impact by a factor of 1.6. A 2017 $16 million dollar contract=$10 million under the current cap. I expect to see a lot of 1 yr deals.

 

[freakazoid]

New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams:
2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6
2016-17: 89 million, tax 108
2017-18: 108 million, tax 127

Jonathan Givony, Draft Express

Not a huge change from earlier projections. Recalibrate your salary impact by a factor of 1.6. A 2017 $16 million dollar contract=$10 million under the current cap. I expect to see a lot of 1 yr deals.

It's kind of a shame that this post will go largely unnoticed/ignored/underappreciated on this board, while people talk about making offers for RFA's that we have no chance of stealing.

 

[The Midnight]

Might be time to find a 6'4 african american wife.... looks like the future is bright.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Might be time to find a 6'4 african american wife.... looks like the future is bright.

But with "smoothing" your offspring would all be tweeners. However, there is talk that eventually the DLeaguers can earn a decent salary.