NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

[KqWIN]

Late to this thread, but my main takeaway is that the draft is just so fun. This is year 3 of me really following the draft and it’s awesome to see how they grow over time and perform even in a SL setting. I’ll be following the draft going forward regardless of the Jazz draft position.

My view of the draft has developed so much over the past three years as well. It’s fun to learn and develop a better understanding over time. There are some 2/3 year players who I loved at the time but wouldn’t pass my current sniff test.

 

[jom2003]

Asa Newell 18 and 11, 4-5 3pt.

Pelicans legit needs to fire Dumars ASAP. How the hell you give up a FRP to move up in the draft only to draft a worse player.

 

[jom2003]

Yang would've been taken way higher if it wasn't for all those busts coming out of China during all these years. Kinda like France. For every Wemby there's about 10 Killian Hayes/Doumbouya/Dieng.

 

[framer]

not just that, but we kept hearing about how he couldn't get to the rim, didn't draw fouls, couldn't finish at the rim, etc. just one more example of how we overthink things too much. if you're a frosh and you average 20 ppg in the SEC, you can probably play. add positional size and nba athleticism, yeah, you don't need to go much further than that.

I actually think Tre Johnson was rated pretty highly by the folks on this board for the most part and a large majority here would have wanted him if Ace was off the board, probably even over VJ. There were those weird Fears believers, but you would be hard pressed to find one now.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yang would've been taken way higher if it wasn't for all those busts coming out of China during all these years. Kinda like France. For every Wemby there's about 10 Killian Hayes/Doumbouya/Dieng.

Uhhh, what? Yi Jianlian is the only Chinese "bust" I can possibly think of. Outside of him, China hasnt really had a prospect anyone thought highly enough of to be considered a "bust".

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yang is just the 3rd Chinese player taken in the first round, so if he succeeds, China will be 2/3 for draft prospects that had any sort of realistic promise.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Really wonder how the wing situation is going to play out for the Wizards:

• Bilal
• Whitmore
• Johnson
• George
• Riley
• Kispert
• Middleton

That's 7 wings who are rotation quality or highly thought of rookie contract wings. Who gets the minutes? How much will they actually play Middleton?

They dont really have many PG's, PF's, or C's on their roster. They are kind of a team made of up wingy guards and wingy forwards

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Really wonder how the wing situation is going to play out for the Wizards:

• Bilal
• Whitmore
• Johnson
• George
• Riley
• Kispert
• Middleton

That's 7 wings who are rotation quality or highly thought of rookie contract wings. Who gets the minutes? How much will they actually play Middleton?

you have to think bilal and johnson's minutes are penciled in. they each get a guaranteed 25 mpg. next, it seems like kispert, whitmore and george will have to get rotation minutes. and like you say, where do middleton's minutes come from and can riley command minutes based on his play. i agree that it's a pretty intriguing situation there. bilal can probably spend some time at the 4, maybe whitmore as well, riley has the length, probably not the strength yet - but by and large those guys are straight wings. 2/3 guys with very little 1 or 4 options.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

you have to think bilal and johnson's minutes are penciled in. they each get a guaranteed 25 mpg. next, it seems like kispert, whitmore and george will have to get rotation minutes. and like you say, where do middleton's minutes come from and can riley command minutes based on his play. i agree that it's a pretty intriguing situation there. bilal can probably spend some time at the 4, maybe whitmore as well, riley has the length, probably not the strength yet - but by and large those guys are straight wings. 2/3 guys with very little 1 or 4 options.

I think they are stuck with Kispert right now. He's a bit overpaid on a long-term deal for a one dimensional shooter who is known as a really bad defender and has seen his %'s fall every year.

Guessing they play Middleton in the range of 25 MPG w/ rest on B2Bs and try to trade him at the deadline to a team trying to offload multi-year salary in exchange for his expiring.

Ultimately they arent trying to win, so playing guys somewhat position-less doesnt really matter I guess.

They could really use another PG though. Wish they would take Collier for Riley.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I think they are stuck with Kispert right now. He's a bit overpaid on a long-term deal for a one dimensional shooter who is known as a really bad defender and has seen his %'s fall every year.

Guessing they play Middleton in the range of 25 MPG w/ rest on B2Bs and try to trade him at the deadline to a team trying to offload multi-year salary in exchange for his expiring.

Ultimately they arent trying to win, so playing guys somewhat position-less doesnt really matter I guess.

They could really use another PG though. Wish they would take Collier for Riley.

i had no idea Kispert was so good his second season - 50/42/85 splits with 13 ppg. sheesh. sucks that he's fallen so badly since then.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

i had no idea Kispert was so good his second season - 50/42/85 splits with 13 ppg. sheesh. sucks that he's fallen so badly since then.

To be fair since that season the Wizards have been bad on purpose.

 

[Basketball Novice]

I actually think Tre Johnson was rated pretty highly by the folks on this board for the most part and a large majority here would have wanted him if Ace was off the board, probably even over VJ. There were those weird Fears believers, but you would be hard pressed to find one now.

I still believe that Fears will be better than Tre. He is just having a hard time in Summer League and his team situation isn't good. But, I believe the best players can thrive in any situation and I hope Fears can prove to be one of those guys.