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NFL 2015 Season Discussion Thread

bigb said:
So if you are Gary Kubiak with a healthy Manning, do you sit a future first ballot Hall of Famer in favor of Brock Osweiler?
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That's a tough one.
 
bigb said:
So if you are Gary Kubiak with a healthy Manning, do you sit a future first ballot Hall of Famer in favor of Brock Osweiler?
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When that Future Hall of Famer is playing like crap then yes. Manning is a Legend IMO. How healthy will a 39 year old athlete in the middle of a season actually get? It's not about Manning or Osweiler. It is about who gives this team the best chance to win and IMO that is Osweiler.

Manning has 9 TDs and 17 INTs in 9 games.

Osweiler has 4 Tds and 1 INT in 2 games played.
 
bigb said:
Yeah, he's playing really well. The question becomes whether or not he is better than this old and worn down version of Peyton.
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Manning is done. Brock is better. 99% of the starting QB's in the NFL are now better than Manning. I hate to say it but I was screaming for his benching for 5 weeks before he got hurt.
 
bigb said:
So if you are Gary Kubiak with a healthy Manning, do you sit a future first ballot Hall of Famer in favor of Brock Osweiler?
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Yes. It's a tough call that's easy to make while sitting at my computer. But in Manning's last 16 games as a starter he has exactly one that was better than either of Brock's last 2. 2-2 is far better than 1-15. Meaning 2 good games in 2 tries instead of 1 good game in 16 tries. It was not just this year that Manning sucked. The Broncos limped into the playoffs last year because he sucked for the last half of that year as well.
 
bigb said:
It's a lose/lose. You sit Manning and you're benching a HOF QB. A soon as Osweiler has a bad game, you get ripped. You play Manning and he keeps playing like he has been, you get ripped.
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You are correct. But Kubiak was hired to get this team past the Manning era. It just happened before they all wanted it to. Kubiak will survive if he keeps Oz as the starter. If he benched Oz for Manning and Oz leaves in the off season because of it you could lose for years. Oz is a FA this off season. I think he's restricted though I'm not sure.
 
fishonjazz said:
Stupid facemask.

Cost me money.
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Yeah..:mad:

One of the reasons I like Basketball better TBH. With only a few possessions and teams killing the clock when their up, crucial calls(human error)turn into deciding factors in games too often. Being a Vikings fan I've learned this the hard way.. They'd have had a chance to go up 2 games in the division this week without that sequence and Hail Mary.

Still though -- No team seems to be as jaded as the Lions, it's just a never-ending list of horrors... Also: nothings ever easy for the Vikings.. With that hail mary both of those things continue to ring true. It's crazy.

I've got faith in my Vikings this season though -- They played poorly vs GB, tons of uncharacteristic penalties. Plus the linebackers weren't healthy. And their missing 2 pro-bowl O lineman for the entire season. Peterson looks as good as ever, and we've got a QB, Diggs is a beast WR out of the 5th round, plus a top-5 defense, It's the best team we've had since Farve. Conversely GB is clearly not what they were the past few seasons..
 
PG_AB said:
Yeah..:mad:

One of the reasons I like Basketball better TBH. With only a few possessions and teams killing the clock when their up, crucial calls(human error)turn into deciding factors in games too often. Being a Vikings fan I've learned this the hard way.. They'd have had a chance to go up 2 games in the division this week without that sequence and Hail Mary.

Still though -- No team seems to be as jaded as the Lions, it's just a never-ending list of horrors... Also: nothings ever easy for the Vikings.. With that hail mary both of those things continue to ring true. It's crazy.

I've got faith in my Vikings this season though -- They played poorly vs GB, tons of uncharacteristic penalties. Plus the linebackers weren't healthy. And their missing 2 pro-bowl O lineman for the entire season. Peterson looks as good as ever, and we've got a QB, Diggs is a beast WR out of the 5th round, plus a top-5 defense, It's the best team we've had since Farve. Conversely GB is clearly not what they were the past few seasons..
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I think the Vikings are good and doing it the right way.
I was watching the Vikings vs falcons game and the announcers were saying that the Vikings team is built like the seahawks. I thought that was a good comparison
 
fishonjazz said:
I think the Vikings are good and doing it the right way.
I was watching the Vikings vs falcons game and the announcers were saying that the Vikings team is built like the seahawks. I thought that was a good comparison
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Agreed. It's mostly all homegrown, drafted players balling for the Vikes. The GM Rick Speilman is one of the best in football IMO. certainly when he's drafting/navigating the draft.

Players like Chad Greenway, Adrian Peterson and Brian Robison were drafted almost 10 years ago, and are still good starters.

Stefon Diggs was the steal of the draft. A 5th round pick looks like our best WR since Percy Harvin. I really like this team.

Some of the F/A's and contract extensions Speilman's signed which have been killed in the media as overpays, (Linval Joseph, Everson Griffen) were infact great ways to spend the $$.
 
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