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NFL 2015 Season Discussion Thread

Patriots fans react to the name "Peyton Manning" the same way dogs reacts to a dog whistle.

All composure leaves them and they just go insane.
 
It's hard for all the patriot fans, who jumped aboard a winning train, to have to lose in the playoffs. Especially against a Manning team that they guaranteed they would beat. Sorry for your loss and rough fandom. But maybe you can start cheering for Carolina they look to be on the up with a good thing qb.

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NAOS said:
By the end of that game, NE was without the 6 or 7 best players not named Tom Brady. I didn't even know who half the guys on the field were. There isn't an argument about who was more dinged up in that game. And NE had zero time to adjust to the injuries.
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What was the excuse this time?

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Broncster said:
Every NFL player (15-20 of them) that I have talked to have told me that other teams were doing it to a much lesser extent and had some unspoken lines not to cross and the patriots crossed that line by a lot and bugged lots of other coaches. They took it too far and were clearly cheating.

Facts still are that Manning has better stats in every way possible in his NFL career. Manning has beaten Brady 3-2 in head to head playoff games and Brady did not win after the spygate scandal came to light and they stopped until the deflategate year. Say what you want about them stopping for the super bowl but it got them there and it definitely helped that team. They set historic records all of a sudden for fumbles.

The only thing Brady has that is better than Manning is Super Bowl wins but those all need an asterisks next to them.

Manning took a low talent Colts team with a poor line, poor defense and poor running game to the super bowl and won it. Brady took teams with great defense and great talent to the super bowl.
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Two things.

Brady won lots and lots between spygate and deflategate.

Manning colts team had two hall of famers at wide receiver, a good o-line, a great running back in edgerin james, a great tight end in dallas clark, and a hall of fame kicker (vinateri)
Yes the defense kind of sucked though they did have two great pass rushers (freeney and another guy whose name eludes me)

That colts team was very loaded on offense. And peyton was fantastic at using those weapons as he was statistically one of the best qb's every year he played for the colts
 
Broncster said:
thats when they stopped winning.
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No they didn't.
What was the pats overall record during that stretch? What was their playoff record.

You yourself said you can't simply look at super bowl wins. Im confident that the pats still had a very good record even when they didn't win the super bowl. Can't win it every year. There are other good teams in the nfl besides the patriots
 
Btw, I repeat, im NOT a Brady fan or patriots fan
But to act like Brady and the patriots were only good during spygate and deflategate years is simply retarded
 
fishonjazz said:
Btw, I repeat, im NOT a Brady fan or patriots fan
But to act like Brady and the patriots were only good during spygate and deflategate years is simply retarded
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Pats have been good for around a decade, consistently. Ever single season. Spygate and Deflatgate and all the gates not withstanding.

I never hold much stock in "*" wins. they still won and beat everyone else. That goes for the Spurs chip in the lockout year. No one else rose up and took it. But I still think they are a shady org. Always will be in my eyes.

Having said that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA suck it Brady. He took the most punishment a QB has taken in any NFL game since 2006. That Denver D line is killer. Ware, Miller, Wolfe, Sly, Harris, Talib, Ward, Stewart, Marshall, Jackson and Trevathan. oh man, killers. The pro bowl should have just taken the Denver D and made them the AFC defense.

Kubiak tried to run out the 2nd half. And the Denver O gift wrapped a TD (missed FG lol) for Brady. So the Denver D gave up only 12 points to the Patriots IMO (the other 6 is on the O).
 
Stoked said:
Pats have been good for around a decade, consistently. Ever single season. Spygate and Deflatgate and all the gates not withstanding.

I never hold much stock in "*" wins. they still won and beat everyone else. That goes for the Spurs chip in the lockout year. No one else rose up and took it. But I still think they are a shady org. Always will be in my eyes.

Having said that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA suck it Brady. He took the most punishment a QB has taken in any NFL game since 2006. That Denver D line is killer.

Kubiak tried to run out the 2nd half. And the Denver O gift wrapped a TD (missed FG lol) for Brady. So the Denver D gave up only 12 points to the Patriots IMO (the other 6 is on the O).
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Good post.
And fwiw I have no problem with someone saying manning>Brady. I think there is an argument to be made for each player and probably an argument to be made for about 5 or 6 guys being the best qb ever (brady, manning, elway, farve, montana, bradshaw, maybe even marino and young) but broncsters posts come off as brady isn't very good or manning >>>>>> brady. And manning carried a crappy no talent Indy team which is simply not true.
 
King Cy said:
What was the excuse this time?

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you're bitch enough to sift through this thread for an old post, but then not find and read the post where I explained my take on the game? shocker.
 
fishonjazz said:
Good post.
And fwiw I have no problem with someone saying manning>Brady. I think there is an argument to be made for each player and probably an argument to be made for about 5 or 6 guys being the best qb ever (brady, manning, elway, farve, montana, bradshaw, maybe even marino and young) but broncsters posts come off as brady isn't very good or manning >>>>>> brady. And manning carried a crappy no talent Indy team which is simply not true.
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If I had to chose it would come down to Brady or Montana IMO. But all those names are elite.
 
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