I miss Tebow. It was really funny watching most of you cry and whine about him. This thread is making me nostalgic.
NFL Discussion Thread - 2013
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7StraightIsGreat
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We also saw him play an unspectacular game against Baltimore last year and throw a really bad pick in OT that helped seal their fate. I'm not sold on Manning in the post season. Yes, he did take his team to the title once, but that seems to be the exception, not the rule.
He never had a groups of receivers like he has now. This team is much more than Peyton. Will they win it all? We will find out but Denver has to be the favorite right now.
gregbroncs
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You mean the game that Manning put in the bag and defense ****ed up for him? He did throw a bad pick in OT. An OT he shouldn't have needed.
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Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edgerrin James, Dallas Clark? IMO he's never had this good of a defense to keep the pressure off him and forcing him to win in shootouts and he's never had this good of a offensive line.
Like I said they have to be the AFC favorites but they still have played one of the easiest schedules so far and it only gets marginally tougher from here, so it has setup perfectly for him to have a career year this season.
Like I said they have to be the AFC favorites but they still have played one of the easiest schedules so far and it only gets marginally tougher from here, so it has setup perfectly for him to have a career year this season.
I'd take Thomas, Welker, Decker and Thomas. Aside from Welker that is a extremely big group of receivers. Keep in mind the D will get better. Denver has yet to show their best.
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I bet Colts fans would disagree with you, but I also know most Bronco fans would likely agree with you. As a fan of neither when all is said and done you could be right, however as history stands now Welker is the only one that could be mentioned with those players, now Thomas could turn into that he has all the tools and better size but he has to prove it before I would give him the nod.
He's absolutely had receivers before in Indy like he's had now. Both Wayne and Marvin Harrison are likely hall of famers (well they should be anyway though it's hard to get in the hall as a WR for some reason), and he also had Stokley (when he was good, or at least decent) and Dallas Clark.
In 2005 the Colts looked like the team to beat, but sigh...I hate thinking about that year. Regardless the one thing I'll agree with is your general point that this Denver team feels more complete than the Colts team did, but as a guy who saw Manning play for many years I must admit I was nervous every post season. However, it's not like every time he went was a flop so I would hardly say that he's destined to lose or anything. Right now the Broncos look like the best team in football by far.
Both Harrison and Wayne in their prime are far superior to any of those two above. It's not even that close. And it's not even a knock on the Bronco group really. They are/were that good.
Thomas may have potential of being elite, but he's not close to there yet.
I agree with the argument that playing with Manning helps WRs become great, but that works both ways in this instance.
gregbroncs
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Never really had Stokely and Dallas Clark together though. Clark did not emerge until after Stokely left. Wide receiver's could be a wash (though I'd take Denver's current receiver's as I think Welker is better than any of the colts receiver's and Thomas and Decker compliment him real good). But over all as a team the Colts were never this good on Special teams and especially defense. Also those Colts teams were going up against another super team in NE. This year I'm not sure there is a team out there like that besides the Broncos.
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Don't get me wrong this is the NFL and they could lose, and probably will. But I still think this Denver team has more talent than any Colts team Peyton ever had.
gregbroncs
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Maybe. Though Welker is the best of any listed for either team. And the 4 from Denver are probably equal to or better than any 4 from Indy during any single season.