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Cyrone Torbin said:
Wait, you are suggesting that they shouldn't draft Luck because he is too good to be a backup for a year? This makes no sense. Get the best player available.
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No. I'm saying Barkley and Jones will be top 5 QB's in the NFL in 2-3 years. Manning has 2-3 good years left. You trade the first pick, get additional picks and trade down a couple spots to snag either Barkley or Jones. I like Barkley a little more than Jones so that's who I would take.

I agree with you that Manning shouldn't be traded. I'm saying you can improve your team while getting a top flight QB in the process and having him learn from Manning for a couple years.
 
fatchipper said:
No. I'm saying Barkley and Jones will be top 5 QB's in the NFL in 2-3 years. Manning has 2-3 good years left. You trade the first pick, get additional picks and trade down a couple spots to snag either Barkley or Jones. I like Barkley a little more than Jones so that's who I would take.

I agree with you that Manning shouldn't be traded. I'm saying you can improve your team while getting a top flight QB in the process and having him learn from Manning for a couple years.
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Barkley and Jones being top five qb's in the league ever, let alone 2-3 years is a pipe dream.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Trading Manning would be stupid. He has been everything to that franchise. Keep him, let him play another year if his health permits. If it doesn't, have him restructure his contract to have him on board as a mentor to Luck.
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reer, you do it.

Stupid? He's 35. If you draft 22 year old Luck and have the chance to get multiple first rounders for a 35 year old qb who's past his prime, has serious injury concerns, and has won just one Super Bowl for his storied career, you do it. Luck, and many high picks over two years could net a ton of talent.

Loyalty is a bad trait held by many, many teams and front office people. If the Colts are smart, they'll ignore any such desire to be loyal.
 
I think what is apparent in Manning's absence is that without Manning the Colts are just a very poor team. I'm not sure what I would do were I in the Colts position. They can draft Luck and have him sit behind Manning for the next 2-3 years and hope that in that time they can rebuild the role players around him, but will Manning want to spend his remaining years trying to drag a rebuilding team up from the basement?

The idea of trading down for Barkley has some merit to it as then you can add some quality players with more picks, while obtaining a QB for the future. After watching the USC-Stanford game I think Barkley is probably the next best available QB after Luck.
 
fatchipper said:
No. I'm saying Barkley and Jones will be top 5 QB's in the NFL in 2-3 years. Manning has 2-3 good years left. You trade the first pick, get additional picks and trade down a couple spots to snag either Barkley or Jones. I like Barkley a little more than Jones so that's who I would take.

I agree with you that Manning shouldn't be traded. I'm saying you can improve your team while getting a top flight QB in the process and having him learn from Manning for a couple years.
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Who is dropping out of the Top 5 club when these guys join it in 2-3 years? Also, it's not even guaranteed Manning has any years left in him. He may comeback the 1st game of next season, get sacked, aggravate his neck and it would all be over.
 
Nothing is a guarantee. Luck may get sacked and break his leg a la Theisman on his first snap.
 
Today in NFL features a matchup of Utah vs BYU. Alex Smith and the 49ers vs John Beck and the Redskins. 49ers about to improve to 7-1.
 
Glad to see Miami win one. Unfortunately for them, they got too far ahead to 'inexplicably' completely fall apart in the 4th, so they decided against it.
 
49ers are now 7-1, with a big game coming next week. The New York Giants are coming to San Francisco. Should be a good game. Giants will be a tough matchup, but I think the 49ers will come out on top to improve to 8-1.

At 7-1 the 49ers now lead the division by 5 games over Seattle. Completely running away with the division title.
 
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