Nissan resorts to hiring ex-felon to endorse their products.

[C l u t c H 385]

Agreed. I'd much rather have a Chevy or Ford which only cost about $15k more, perform much worse in any unbiased test and sport a stylish interior straight from 1995.

Way to hate America you terrorist piece of ****.

 

[VINYLONE]

Way to hate America you terrorist piece of ****.

Ahhh the foibles of the Buy American jingoist.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

Ahhh the foibles of the Buy American jingoist.

Ahhh the America hatin d-bag. Friggin terrorist I tell ya.

 

[GVC]

I think that people who torture and kill animals/dogs should have their sacks torn off like a paper towel.

But you love a good burger...

 

[TroutBum]

But you love a good burger...

I don't have cows in my yard, or sleeping at the foot of my bed. I don't love cows outside of the delicious meat they produce.

I hate air pollution as well -- are you going to pull the, "but you still drive a car..." horse crap?

 

[VINYLONE]

Ahhh the America hatin d-bag. Friggin terrorist I tell ya.

Wrong. Again. I buy American whenever I can. In fact I would prefer to buy American. But only when there's value. I don't just buy American because I'm some sort of jingoist hack. Because if I did then I would take away all the incentive for the company to get better if they put an inferior product on the market. You see, I value my pocketbook more than I do supporting a company that puts out garbage product.

 

[VINYLONE]

I don't have cows in my yard, or sleeping at the foot of my bed. I don't love cows outside of the delicious meat they produce.

I hate air pollution as well -- are you going to pull the, "but you still drive a car..." horse crap?

So the only difference in whether it's a horrific act or not is if the animal has a name or not?

 

[Marty McFly]

So the only difference in whether it's a horrific act or not is if the animal has a name or not?

So it's okay what Michael Vick did?

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

I think all TICC, Viny, et. al. are saying is that we shouldn't demonize a company simply because it chooses to believe that a particular felon is rehabilitated and may bring them value and that the "all felons are taboo" attitude is probably somewhat counterproductive.

That is a fair comment. Treat them on a case by case basis. If you make dogs fight until they have ripped each other apart and then take them and beat them against the wall, drown, electrocute and other horrible stuff don't be shocked when people still think you are a douche bag even if you went to prison.

If you a guy who was selling marijuana and got nailed... I could probably get over that a little quicker.

 

[VINYLONE]

So it's okay what Michael Vick did?

Absolutely ****ing not. I would have turned him in personally. I love dogs, my parents dog, just as much as Ballou, if not more. But that does not mean that I believe individuals are static and not capable of change.

Furthermore, I either respect the rules of law and punishment or I don't. Again, he served his time, paid his court fees, paid his fines, so he paid his debt to society.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

So the only difference in whether it's a horrific act or not is if the animal has a name or not?

Are you trying to defend your cow-fighting ring or something?

 

[VINYLONE]

people still think you are a douche bag even if you went to prison.

Absolutely Chad. No one is arguing otherwise. The dude is a complete and utter douchebag.