Nissan resorts to hiring ex-felon to endorse their products.

[GVC]

Not that felons can't work. But should a company hire guys like him to endorse their stuff? Eh...

Why not? And where should/shouldn't felons be permitted to work? Keep in mind that the more you restrict ex-felons' employment options, the more likely they are to turn back to crime.

At what point does punishing criminals turn from a crime deterrent into a crime incentive?

 

[VINYLONE]

Not that felons can't work. But should a company hire guys like him to endorse their stuff? Eh...

Should? I don't worry about should. I worry about a company not being allowed to hire whoever it is that they want. Let the market decide if it's the right decision or not.

Why not? And where should/shouldn't felons be permitted to work? Keep in mind that the more you restrict ex-felons' employment options, the more likely they are to turn back to crime.

At what point does punishing criminals turn from a crime deterrent into a crime incentive?

Well said.

 

[GVC]

It's hard for pragmatism to take root in a nation filled with puritanical ideologues, I guess.

 

[VINYLONE]

It's hard for pragmatism to take root in a nation filled with puritanical ideologues, I guess.

Common sense is very rarely used in this country... People are still consumed with fighting along the party lines.

 

[TroutBum]

This reminds me of Nike endorsing DuhBron and Crymello's people of Utah -- I will never purchase another Nike product. EVER. I think Vick is on the same line as child molesters and rapists, so I will think twice before buying a Nissan.

 

[GVC]

Only someone born a criminal would break the law. Kill'em all, I say.

 

[TroutBum]

Only someone born a criminal would break the law. Kill'em all, I say.

I do think it's kind of funny that the two people who have done hard time are the ones boobing the most.

 

[VINYLONE]

I will never purchase another Nike product. EVER. I think Vick is on the same line as child molesters and rapists, so I will think twice before buying a Nissan.

The market at work.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

Why not? And where should/shouldn't felons be permitted to work? Keep in mind that the more you restrict ex-felons' employment options, the more likely they are to turn back to crime.

At what point does punishing criminals turn from a crime deterrent into a crime incentive?

Felons are already restricted to a lot of things. How many job applications don't ask if you have ever been convicted of a felony? None that I can think of. They can't vote. They have a harder time getting bank loans, housing etc. Why not just loosen up on that stuff too then?

What point? I don't know. I think you are generalizing too much. I brought a specific instance and you are trying to lump it into a huge group.
Depends on the felon on where they should work.

 

[VINYLONE]

Felons are already restricted to a lot of things. How many job applications don't ask if you have ever been convicted of a felony? None that I can think of. They can't vote. They have a harder time getting bank loans, housing etc. Why not just loosen up on that stuff too then?

What I want is for convicts to become productive members of society. I want them to contribute in positive ways. That said, I am willing to try anything. The money that houses them come from me. I am sick of seeing the revolving door of crime.

 

[GVC]

I do think it's kind of funny that the two people who have done hard time are the ones boobing the most.

I've never even been questioned about a crime by police.

 

[VINYLONE]

I do think it's kind of funny that the two people who have done hard time are the ones boobing the most.

Who are you referring to dave?