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No BYU-Utah Rivalry Football Games in 2014 or 2015

Try to have a little intellectual honesty and not go there. When BYU saw Utah getting the PAC12 invite and all the money that was going to come with it, they bolted the MWC as quickly as humanly possible, signed their own sweetheart deal with ESPN, and began pimping their sports with BYUtv. Every single one of those decisions was financially motivated and were made in an effort to keep up with "little brother".

The biggest difference between the two schools is that Utah is up front and honest about the financial motivations of their program, while BYU strives for the exact same thing, yet does it under the guise of "religion first".
If money was first at BYU they could've been in a bigger conference decades ago. I know that kills you but sorry it's true. Money is certainly a factor but it's not THE factor like it is at Utah. There's nothing wrong with that. It's not like one side is wrong and the other side is right. They are different types of schools.

I don't understand why Utah honks always fight against that truth. Talk about being intellectually dishonest.
 
If money was first at BYU they could've been in a bigger conference decades ago. I know that kills you but sorry it's true. Money is certainly a factor but it's not THE factor like it is at Utah. There's nothing wrong with that. It's not like one side is wrong and the other side is right. They are different types of schools.

I don't understand why Utah honks always fight against that truth. Talk about being intellectually dishonest.

So they were holding out because? Less exposure? Couldn't play on Sundays? They were too cool for a bigger conference and turned down offers?

Please defend this statement.
 
So they were holding out because? Less exposure? Couldn't play on Sundays? They were too cool for a bigger conference and turned down offers?

Please defend this statement.
Is it safe to assume you are unaware of the history of BYU in the context of joining other conferences decades ago?
 
So they were holding out because? Less exposure? Couldn't play on Sundays? They were too cool for a bigger conference and turned down offers?

Please defend this statement.

I think this last go round BYU did have an invite from the Big 12 but chose BYUtv over joining the conference. However, I think its the first time they've ever been invited to join a so called "power conference". To imply that BYU coukd have joined one of these conferences decades ago is completely false. The Pac10, Big10, SEC, and ACC have never shown interest in BYU. Back when the Big12 was formed, BYU was heavily considered but eventually passed by. The Big East wanted BYU to join last year but its a joke of a conference and BYU was smart to decline.
 
During the 1980s and early 1990s, "whenever anyone talked about the Pac-10 expanding, BYU was always the No. 1 school mentioned," Tuckett said. "But they never invited us to dinner. There was never an invitation. It was always speculative talk. If they were going to do something, we would have been their No. 1 choice, according to the athletic directors. The presidents and (board of regents) at Cal and Stanford made their wishes known about BYU. I'm good friends with (former Pac-10 commissioner) Tom Hansen. He talked very plainly to me, all the time, about how things were and where we stood. It was different then than now, but there was never any invitation. Just interest between coach-to-coach, athletic director-to-athletic director."

Numerous sources who have had dealings with the Pac-10 hierarchy say the league's presidents didn't feel comfortable inviting BYU then, just like they don't now.

Why?

Publicly, Pac-10 officials have said they're not interested in BYU because it is a teaching institution rather than a research institution. Sources have told the Deseret News for years that this is merely a smokescreen. They say if "research" is part of the criteria, there are schools already within the Pac-10 that don't qualify by that standard.

Sources say Pac-10 presidents have blackballed BYU simply because of their biases against the school.

"It's religious prejudice masquerading as academic snobbery," one source has told the Deseret News. "They're trying to find an excuse to avoid the real issue, that they don't want a school that is tied to the LDS Church."

Then there is the issue of Sunday play. The Pac-10 holds a number of conference championships and regular season games on that day — in part to accommodate television — a day on which BYU does not compete as per school policy.

When that topic of Sunday play arose during a presidents' meeting in the 1990s, one president reportedly said, "We'll play on Christian and Jewish holidays. We'll play anytime and we'll offend everybody."

For those reasons, the source has been saying for years, the idea of BYU going to the Pac-10 is "a dead issue. The door is slammed shut."

Said Tuckett, "The Pac-10, like practically all conferences, have gone to Sunday play in basketball and baseball and softball. That would eliminate BYU right there. I don't think we're an attractive enough entity to have them change every schedule around, just to fit us. That's an inconvenience that the conference wouldn't want to cope with anyway."

Sorry
 
All that article shows is that BYU has never and will never get an invite to the PAC. Still waiting for somebody to post an article showing that BYU could have joined one of these conferences decades ago but chose not to. After all, thats what was implied.
 
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