No lunch for Huckabee, Is it the same?

[Jazzta]

The US voting system is still better than Spain’s, but far from perfect when it comes to media coverage. The elections feel like watching a talkshow.

 

[gandalfe]

I certainly wasn't suggesting the government enforcing population control, so yeah, I should have been more clear. It's my own way of looking at it, I guess. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking this way. I don't think mother's think that way, obviously, when getting an abortion. It still doesn't change the fact that 3000 potential humans are stopped from existing a day.

I already think we're overpopulated. Utah is getting out of control. I just can't fathom open borders realistically working.

Actually, the most recent year for which statistics are available was 2014. In that year, there were 652,639 abortions reported to the CDC (excluding CA, MD, and NH, for some reason). This comes to 1788/day. Which, by the way, is the lowest in absolute numbers since 1973.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Actually, the most recent year for which statistics are available was 2014. In that year, there were 652,639 abortions reported to the CDC (excluding CA, MD, and NH, for some reason). This comes to 1788/day. Which, by the way, is the lowest in absolute numbers since 1973.

Interesting.

Good stats.

So as the population has increased abortion rates have gone down?

If republicans were really concerned with population, wouldn’t they be advocating for comprehensive sex edu instead of advocating for abstinence only?

 

[gandalfe]

Interesting.

Good stats.

So as the population has increased abortion rates have gone down?

If republicans were really concerned with population, wouldn’t they be advocating for comprehensive sex edu instead of advocating for abstinence only?

Well, exactly. The most effective way to prevent abortion is to prevent pregnancy. But preventing abortion isn't their goal, anyway.

We're basically talking about 2 different strategies to propagate your genes, here: 1 is to have lots of kids as fast as you can and hope to overwhelm by sheer numbers, and the other is to delay having kids until you can provide for them better so that they are individually more successful.

 

[Archie Moses]

Actually, the most recent year for which statistics are available was 2014. In that year, there were 652,639 abortions reported to the CDC (excluding CA, MD, and NH, for some reason). This comes to 1788/day. Which, by the way, is the lowest in absolute numbers since 1973.

I googled it and found the World Health Organization and Jones RK et al., Abortion in the United States as sources and they were from 2005. Thanks for my recent data.

Edit: TIL abortions were at their lowest rate in 40 years in 2014.

In the USA, where nearly half of pregnancies are unintended and four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion [1] , there are over 3,000 abortions per day. Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies in the USA (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion. [2]

Another interesting thing is there are roughly 125k abortions a day worldwide. This year alone, there have been an estimated 20.3 million abortions. Whether directly or indirectly, abortion is a form of population control.

 

[Gameface]

I googled it and found the World Health Organization and Jones RK et al., Abortion in the United States as sources and they were from 2005. Thanks for my recent data.

Edit: TIL abortions were at their lowest rate in 40 years in 2014.



Another interesting thing is there are roughly 125k abortions a day worldwide. This year alone, there have been an estimated 20.3 million abortions. Whether directly or indirectly, abortion is a form of population control.

While in a way it controls the population, it doesn't do so in a way that is very meaningful in regard to the overall population levels. Also, it is not being employed on an individual basis, in the U.S., as a population control strategy. Like Tom and Sally don't say to each other when they find out Sally got pregnant "We'll I want to do my part to control the population, so even though I want a child I'm going to have an abortion."

 

[Zombie]

Trump seemed like the kind of candidate that would attempt such a takeover, but I thought we had enough sense to avoid that disaster.

Thing is I'm not truly concerned about Donald Trump attempting a dictatorial power grab, I don't even think he wanted to be president really, it was just a grift that got out of hand. I wouldn't put it past him, of course, to attempt such a thing if he feels truly cornered by legal troubles.

But what I really worry about is that in the near future some truly ambitious individual will use Trump's rise as a road map to such a power grab. His use of nationalist demagoguery has culminated in a cult like control over his followers such that they'll excuse nearly anything he does.

Now, when I say both sides are not the same I'm not expecting people to start stumping for Nancy Pelosi or anything, just that they recognize how truly abhorrent Trump's movement is, and what it portends for the future if left unchecked. There's a potential for some truly evil **** to go down.

I see it in the way he's stirred up his base against the media such that they believe nothing unless it comes from his mouth or his preferred media outlets. I see it when he leads his rallies with chants of locking up his political opponents. I see it in the way he's convinced millions of people there's an influx of dangerous criminals flooding our southern border, and he's the only one who will protect them, to the point that they will defend caging ****ing babies.

 

[Gameface]

Thing is I'm not truly concerned about Donald Trump attempting a dictatorial power grab, I don't even think he wanted to be president really, it was just a grift that got out of hand. I wouldn't put it past him, of course, to attempt such a thing if he feels truly cornered by legal troubles.

But what I really worry about is that in the near future some truly ambitious individual will use Trump's rise as a road map to such a power grab. His use of nationalist demagoguery has culminated in a cult like control over his followers such that they'll excuse nearly anything he does.

Now, when I say both sides are not the same I'm not expecting people to start stumping for Nancy Pelosi or anything, just that they recognize how truly abhorrent Trump's movement is, and what it portends for the future if left unchecked. There's a potential for some truly evil **** to go down.

I see it in the way he's stirred up his base against the media such that they believe nothing unless it comes from his mouth or his preferred media outlets. I see it when he leads his rallies with chants of locking up his political opponents. I see it in the way he's convinced millions of people there's an influx of dangerous criminals flooding our southern border, and he's the only one who will protect them, to the point that they will defend caging ****ing babies.

Yeah for me, when people want to talk about this like it's an R vs D thing, not for me. This is a Trump thing. I absolutely don't like Trump, not because he's a Republican who became President, but because of the way he has conducted himself, the ethical standards he violates, the lies he tells (and the way he tells them), the laws he breaks.

These things matter. You can't make vague unsubstantiated claims about the crimes of Hillary Clinton, allegations that have existed for a long time, have been investigated when investigation is even remotely warranted, and proven fruitless, and then dismiss the allegations against Trump by saying "When they prosecute Hillary for the imaginary crimes we've levied against her I'll give a **** about the substantial legitimate crimes Trump is guilty of." If that's your position (Bagofstupidity, I'm looking right at your idiot face) you need to get a ****ing mirror and ask yourself where you went wrong, because you are ****ing wrong, and you need to figure **** out.

 

[lauriandres]

It is true tho that Trump, and a lot of his supporters, are quite racist. Just today he complained about European countries being taken over by Muslims, and how they're just not the same any more.

Seriously, **** that guy.

1. Siro, i guess you have not visited Europe at all? Or really like the ghetto culture the migrants provide at touristy places in Paris, Firenze, Nice etc. In your view i am certainly rascist if i do not want that something like this turns it some kind of muslim festival (forced by muslims due the "borders should open for everybody") in the near future. Russian occupations was already bad enough.
2. That's why i prefer to visit countries like Japan as tourist, because they know how to preserve their nation and traditions and also know in a hard way what happens when you try to ruin other nations (Pearl Harbour attack -> atom bomb in Hiroshima and Nagasaki).
3. In general, it is not my business who is the POTUS - however, because USA and Estonia in general are allies (hopefully also in real difficult situations) i find no reasons to grab a pitchfork and go to protest in front of the US Embassy. Our country was visited by both Bush and Obama (he visited a la "please be ready, i'll be coming tomorrow" style) and i would generally like, if Trump also visits my country.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I just wish restaurant owners and democrats would be more civil.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Excellent post @Zombie

 

[Deleted member 365]

I wonder how that 5-4 decision to uphold Donald’s travel ban was received in the Middle East? Does that help or hurt the war on terror? Meh what does it matter. Both sides are the same. I’m sure Merrick Garland would be making th exact same rulings as Gorsuch. Both parties are the same.