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[Hantlers]

For that matter, if it's from the Bible, it's still not accurate.

That my friend, is something you can't say with 100% certainty.

You may believe that it's not accurate, but you certainly can't prove it.

Just like I can believe that it is accurate, but I certainly can't prove it.

It's all about belief.

 

[The Midnight]

I feel a "locked thread" coming on in .... 3....2....1.....

 

[One Brow]

That my friend, is something you can't say with 100% certainty.

You may believe that it's not accurate, but you certainly can't prove it.

Just like I can believe that it is accurate, but I certainly can't prove it.

It's all about belief.

If you believe in a trickster God, one who would erase all the effects of a global flood by magic after it happened, then I can't disprove it, any more than I can disprove the world was created on April 5, 2014, with all of our memories intact, light already ont he way from stars, etc. A trickster God can do anything; they can't be disproven.

However, absent the trickster God, I am 100% confident that there was no global flood within the last 10,000 years.

 

[Stoked]

If you believe in a trickster God, one who would erase all the effects of a global flood by magic after it happened, then I can't disprove it, any more than I can disprove the world was created on April 5, 2014, with all of our memories intact, light already ont he way from stars, etc. A trickster God can do anything; they can't be disproven.

However, absent the trickster God, I am 100% confident that there was no global flood within the last 10,000 years.

The belief in God almost universally includes the belief that God is all powerful, that he can do anything. It is not that he is a trickster, it is that he can do anything he wants.

For examples:

Flood the Earth
Change the way gravity works
Switch out the sun with the moon
Grow ants to the size of great danes
Create a 2nd intelligent race here on earth


All powerful means all powerful

 

[colton]

The belief in God almost universally includes the belief that God is all powerful, that he can do anything. It is not that he is a trickster, it is that he can do anything he wants.

But why would God want to flood the whole earth and then erase all evidence that such a universal flood happened? I'm with One Brow on this one, or at least partially--I believe in Noah and the Flood, but I don't believe that it was a universal flood.

 

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But why would God want to flood the whole earth and then erase all evidence that such a universal flood happened? I'm with One Brow on this one, or at least partially--I believe in Noah and the Flood, but I don't believe that it was a universal flood.

It's probably a good idea to scrap any and all universal dogmas. Even physics, which has long been yolked to Church and State notions of eternality and purity, is catching on.

 

[DutchJazzer]

That my friend, is something you can't say with 100% certainty.

You may believe that it's not accurate, but you certainly can't prove it.

Just like I can believe that it is accurate, but I certainly can't prove it.

It's all about belief.

Maybe you ccant prove or disprove it.

BUT I CAN

 

[LogGrad98]

I think a lot of the old testament is apocryphal, nothing more.

 

[colton]

I think a lot of the old testament is apocryphal, nothing more.

I'm with you on that. I just read through Leviticus, and it's hard for me to believe that many of those regulation were not the invention of man. And, if it helps, Brigham Young is with us...as documented in the book "Mormons and the Bible", he felt that parts of the Bible (esp. Old Testament) were "baby stories", written in a way that the unsophisticated people of the time could understand but should be supplanted by modern science as appropriate. (Other LDS leaders have disagreed with that view. See my review of that book, here: https://www.amazon.com/review/RWPDA7LCZWYSM/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0195109716)

 

[PearlWatson]

But why would God want to flood the whole earth and then erase all evidence that such a universal flood happened? I'm with One Brow on this one, or at least partially--I believe in Noah and the Flood, but I don't believe that it was a universal flood.

What evidence would there be if there was a "universal flood?"

 

[One Brow]

What evidence would there be if there was a "universal flood?"

A mass extinction less than 6000 years ago? There would be detritus from all the bodies. Ancient civilizations should have been interrupted and replaced with completely different groups. Remnants of valley mud on the tops of mountains or in deserts; large deposits of rock, mud, bodies, etc. would have been spread across the world.

 

[PearlWatson]

A mass extinction less than 6000 years ago? There would be detritus from all the bodies. Ancient civilizations should have been interrupted and replaced with completely different groups. Remnants of valley mud on the tops of mountains or in deserts; large deposits of rock, mud, bodies, etc. would have been spread across the world.

How would we distinguish the rock, mud, and skeletal remains we see all over the world from the rock, mud, skeletal remains we should see all over the world?