NON-JAZZ NBA PLAYOFF thread

[LoPo]

Lol Craig has literally had a bigger influence on the series than Crowder has. Have you watched any of the conference finals?

I'm not watching that series because I don't want to be reminded of how we choked against a team we should have beaten.

But if Craig is so crucial, why has he only played about 11 minutes a game? 0 steals? 1 block? 10 total rebounds? 17 total points?

Crowder hasn't played great, but he's playing about 30 minutes per game in this series. And his team is up 3-2. And doesn't he have the chore of guarding Paul George most of the time? I haven't watched, but if he has, he's going to get scored on. Stars score on everybody. It's what they do. And most times, role players who spend a lot of energy guarding stars struggle at the other end.

 

[fishonjazz]

That’s correct any other defender and he probably scores 60 and wins.

Lol. Durant has been guarded by lots and lots of dudes not named tucker and has never scored 60.
That was literally his best playoff series ever.

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[nothingbutnet]

Torrey Craig per 36 mins this Playoffs:

14.1 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 1.5 BPG, 44% from 3 on 5.3 attempts.

Jae Crowder per 36 mins this Playoffs:

11.3 PPG, 5.9 RPG. 0.9 BPG, 35.1% from 3 on 7.2 attempts

One guy is making 1.68M and the other is making 9.26M.

 

[nothingbutnet]

Lol. Durant has been guarded by lots and lots of dudes not named tucker and has never scored 60.
That was literally his best playoff series ever.

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Yes, he played the most minutes and shot the most shots of any playoff series in his career. He’s Kevin Durant what do you expect when you give him more minutes and more shots?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We don't even know Craig would have played.
Let's say the jazz had Craig this season. Quin likes spacing on offense and running guys off the 3 point line into Rudy on defense. Did that worj this season? I think so. We set lots of records offensively and we were number one defending the three and were really good defending the paint and keeping guys off the 3 point line. I think we were top 3 defensively and offensively.
Is Craig better than niang at providing spacing? Would he run guys in to Rudy or try to stop then himself more. Would our offensive and defensive ratings been better than top three with Craig instead of niang?
I doubt it. I think quin would have played niang all throughout the regular season like he did. I think he would have tried to play niang in both playoff series of we look at quins history at making adjustments and lineup changes.
Let's say he plays Craig for niangs minutes vs the clippers. I still think we loose. Let's say Craig's guy just can't get past Craig in the minutes Craig is in. So they just attack Clarkson or Mitchell or bogey or whoever instead. Rudy comes into the paint to help. Clippers find the open man. Three pointer.

Hell, the clippers are doing quite well against the suns who even have the mighty Craig. If Paul George makes 2 free throws the clippers are up 3-2 right now and might finish the suns in 6.
If the refs review an out of bounds call at the end of the previous suns clippers game that obviously of the suns player then the clippers might have finished the suns in 5 even with the contributions of the mighty Craig.

I think we are finding out that maybe the clippers are good. Even against a team led by Torrey Craig they still have a chance

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You can say "might" and "maybe" in front of anything posted here. You posted like 12 hypothetical situations above that seem to indicate you know how it'd play out.

KD might have helped us... but what if he didn't like it here or doesn't like Rudy... you don't know that we'd win a title with KD. See. I'm not gonna go there.

If Quin is dumb enough to not understand how this **** works and that guys like Craig tend to be more viable in the playoffs then guys like Niang... then I'd want to know that about Quin. Its something we can look more definitively at and say he had options. Oni/Brantley/Forrest/Thomas/Morgan have not proven nearly as much as Craig. If Quin is still that rigid then we should move on because he won't be the guy that wins us a title. We didn't find out because he has guys at the end of his bench that are likely not NBA players. (and yes we don't know they aren't.... I also don't know that Joan from accounting isn't an NBA player either... but Craig has already proven it).

The clippers are really good... part of the reason why is they are very adaptable and have so many options at the end of the bench that they can plug in. I always said the Clips were good. Assholes on here were talking about how it was a 5 or 6 game series at best... I was saying I didn't think we should be favored. I know they are good. We didn't give ourselves the best chance to beat them.

 

[nothingbutnet]

Yes, he played the most minutes and shot the most shots of any playoff series in his career. He’s Kevin Durant what do you expect when you give him more minutes and more shots?

@fishonjazz

Durant shot 36 times and scored 48 points. Congrats?

He also shot 9/25, 11/28 and 12/25 against Tucker. This was his best series ever right? You really just go by stats all the time and don’t watch games lmao.

 

[fishonjazz]

Torrey Craig per 36 mins this Playoffs:

14.1 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 1.5 BPG, 44% from 3 on 5.3 attempts.

Jae Crowder per 36 mins this Playoffs:

11.3 PPG, 5.9 RPG. 0.9 BPG, 35.1% from 3 on 7.2 attempts

One guy is making 1.68M and the other is making 9.26M.

Can't go by stats bro. What crowder is doing doesn't show up in stats.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm not watching that series because I don't want to be reminded of how we choked against a team we should have beaten.

But if Craig is so crucial, why has he only played about 11 minutes a game? 0 steals? 1 block? 10 total rebounds? 17 total points?

Crowder hasn't played great, but he's playing about 30 minutes per game in this series. And his team is up 3-2. And doesn't he have the chore of guarding Paul George most of the time? I haven't watched, but if he has, he's going to get scored on. Stars score on everybody. It's what they do. And most times, role players who spend a lot of energy guarding stars struggle at the other end.

Because they have a **** ton of options... Craig is playing the minutes he needs to. 11-12 minutes a night is what I would have wanted from him.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yes, he played the most minutes and shot the most shots of any playoff series in his career. He’s Kevin Durant what do you expect when you give him more minutes and more shots?

Weird that he would take more shots when he has THE Durant stopper guarding him.
Seems like he would shoot less with when guarded by the best defender he has ever faced.

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[nothingbutnet]

Weird that he would take more shots when he has THE Durant stopper guarding him.
Seems like he would shoot less with when guarded by the best defender he has ever faced.

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He shot terribly 4 out of 7 games lmao. You don’t even watch games dude. If you do it’s the same as someone who doesn’t know basketball watching games.

 

[nothingbutnet]

Can't go by stats bro. What crowder is doing doesn't show up in stats.

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Getting torched on defense doesn’t show up in stats you’re right.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lol. Durant has been guarded by lots and lots of dudes not named tucker and has never scored 60.
That was literally his best playoff series ever.

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Yeah but he could have averaged 60... just because he hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't do it. (am I doing it right... just like how Niang could have played better)

If Milwaukee doesn't add Tucker they don't win the series. Full stop. KD gave him buckets... Tucker made him uncomfortable at times... those times made the difference in the series.