It looks like the Stars season starts tomorrow. I wonder if there has been a plan all along to get some of our young guys down there once the season starts? We'll see soon enough.
Game Thread Nov 07, 2024 06:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Milwaukee Bucks
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Obviously minutes are “earned” in settings we can’t see, training camp, practice etc. But it is frustrating to see Sens, Flip, and Collier being put in the doghouse when they’ve all showed a little promise. It gives impression that Hardy has favorites, and he should of course. If he believes in one player over the other he should give them more leeway. But it sucks to see all of these guys be on the outside.
The two guys that Hardy/FO believe in unconditionally are Key and Cody. It doesn’t not matter how much they suck, they will get force fed minutes and responsibility. I’m not here to say they will suck forever, but maybe Hardy should apply a more moderate touch to have and have nots. I think Key and Cody could use some more tough love and “earn it” more than they have. OTOH, I think the other young guys deserve a little more leeway than they’ve received.
It’s too early to make such harsh distinctions between the players.
The two guys that Hardy/FO believe in unconditionally are Key and Cody. It doesn’t not matter how much they suck, they will get force fed minutes and responsibility. I’m not here to say they will suck forever, but maybe Hardy should apply a more moderate touch to have and have nots. I think Key and Cody could use some more tough love and “earn it” more than they have. OTOH, I think the other young guys deserve a little more leeway than they’ve received.
It’s too early to make such harsh distinctions between the players.
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So... I'm going to just come out and say it... Juzang is better than Brice. Juzang over Brice makes some sense right now for a couple reasons.
1- Johnny has never missed a three pointer ever.
2- His contract and type of player he is may legitimately net you a first if he continues to show what he does. I don't think the defense is horrific and the shooting plus cutting and attacking close outs is something that fits well on 30 teams. The price and length of the contract in this tight CBA environment should be appealing to contenders OR we may just keep him long-term.
3- Brice probably needs to play a little more like Cody. Especially on this team of dribble happy combo guards.
Eubanks... maybe he improves his trade value a smidge and nets you like a 2nd rounder... whoopty freaking doo.
Mills... fine play him last night since Collier has just now been made available but he is the Udonis Haslem of this roster. Just give over the minutes.
With both Mills and Eubanks it was the same "they've earned it" culture bull ****. With both of those guys they got more money than they would have elsewhere, so as John Hamm said with regard appreciation "that's what the money is for".
It's hard for me to envision Hardy as the grumpy "earn it" guy when it applies so differently to different players. I feel like I come off as a Cody/Key hater, but truthfully I am just left uneasy by the way they are treated. Clearly Hardy believes it is a good for them to receive playing time for the sake of giving them playing time. It is hard to say that their playing time and roles have been earned. I don't expect every young guy to be treated the same, obviously you are going to view some different than others. But there shouldn't be this massive gap in preferential treatment. Key and Cody are at a place where nothing they can do will take away their playing time. OTOH, a guy like Flip played well and at the same time had no opportunity to keep his minutes.
I still think the biggest impact of this is simply that it is incredibly boring to watch. It probably won't have a huge impact on the way each player develops, but it's truly painful to watch our vets get blown out. Having said that, I do think it brings Hardy's player evaluation into question. Like I said, some of the stuff just makes me feel uneasy.
I still think the biggest impact of this is simply that it is incredibly boring to watch. It probably won't have a huge impact on the way each player develops, but it's truly painful to watch our vets get blown out. Having said that, I do think it brings Hardy's player evaluation into question. Like I said, some of the stuff just makes me feel uneasy.
I really dont get playing Eubanks over Filipowski.
I kind of get Mills for the whole leadership thing.
I kind of get Mills for the whole leadership thing.
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Cody starts and Flip, Brice, and Collier can’t get in the game. Rap that around your head
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Doesn’t look like that’s the plan for Cody and he needs it as much as anyone.
Cody is the best defender on the team from the perimeter.
Never forget Rudy Gay. He also earned it.
Hardy has respect for vets that also translates to being more forgiving to them the older they are.
I maintain that playing Rudy Gay over Ochai was stupid. It didn't do much of anything to help develop him, that's for sure.
Cody seems to shoot better from above the break than from the corner. No idea why.