Game Thread Nov 13, 2025 07:00PM MT: Atlanta Hawks @ Utah Jazz

[fishonjazz]

My favorite players to watch currently (excluding Lauri) are Collier and Ace. I had kind of written Collier off but he has been great and is really likeable.

Wish I could watch Hendricks. And I know he has sucked this season. Still wish I could watch him play anyways.

Also, I wish Clayton could still get minutes. Logjam with collier back though.

 

[fishonjazz]

Only missed 5 minutes of the game. Cool.

That pissed me off. I spent way too much time rewinding and then fast forwarding trying to figure out how to see what I missed. I thought it might have just been my tv/antenna or whatever. Nice to know it wasn't just me at least.

 

[fishonjazz]

Probably mentioned plenty of time already but Ace has a really quick release.
Kinda seems too quick. But its going in.

 

[HeatCheck]

My favorite players to watch currently (excluding Lauri) are Collier and Ace. I had kind of written Collier off but he has been great and is really likeable.

Wish I could watch Hendricks. And I know he has sucked this season. Still wish I could watch him play anyways.

Also, I wish Clayton could still get minutes. Logjam with collier back though.

Same.

The main job of the guards on this current team should be to get the ball to Lauri and Ace especially during the 4th quarter in close games. They also need to be willing to defend the 3 pt shot on the defensive end. Collier obviously has his warts when it comes to shooting but checks all the other boxes.

 

[KqWIN]

The pace of this game was absolutely crazy. It wasn't actually that bad of a defensive game....relatively. 121.7 defensive rating when the other team shoots 50% isn't half bad for us.

 

[fishonjazz]

Jalen Johnson 28 PTS, 14 REB, 13 AST, 7 STL so far.

What a game by him

 

[fishonjazz]

Collier is a stoney looking dude.

Thwomp

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Probably mentioned plenty of time already but Ace has a really quick release.
Kinda seems too quick. But its going in.

i've had the same thought. i don't remember him shooting it that quick in college. but yeah, at least for now it's working. if he can shoot it that fast - at his size - and it goes in, well he might be pretty good!

 

[fishonjazz]

I laughed early in the game when thurl was talking about how the jazz problem was with their offense and how they had played good defense. Meanwhile, the hawks were shooting like 75% from 3 at the time.
Then after thinking about it a bit I kind of actually found myself agreeing with him. They were playing a lot of good defense for long stretches of possessions but just making little mistakes at the end of shot clocks and allowing the hawks to score. But the jazz were making the hawks work hard and use much of the clock before ending with good shot that to their credit, they were making every single time.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

You can't leave 90% of NBA players wide open anymore. Everyone can get hot if you give them all day.

For me, this is part of a more general discussion about disallowing or disrupting players' rhythm—whether that a rhythm of shooting wide-open threes from their preferred places, or a rhythm in running a particular screen to gain an advantage, etc. Good defenses take away any rhythm, even if its part of using a possession in some "low value" way. The late-Synder era was miserable at this.