Game Thread Nov 22, 2023 08:00PM MT: Jazz at Trail Blazers

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Almost all "rebuilds" are 15-20 years and only end because someone gets lucky. The Jazz aren't rebuilding. They are a bad basketball team with some assets. You can wish to win the lottery, but most don't.

Yeah, no one wants to lose but it's what we are doing.

The Jazz have enough assets to do a quick turnaround if they want to. They aren't going to force it though and use the down time to accumulate more assets and figure out who the keepers are.

 

[David Hume]

going tonight

seen Oppenheimer ?
more telling of human suffering and angst Kinda like being a Jazz fan

Ainge: "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I actually want a picture of you standing under a “welcome to central time zone” sign.

In Texas… San Antonio. Visiting family and these games are way too late.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Part of the consideration of trading Don/Rudy is that tanking is not as simple as it seems. Lauri Markannen having a breakout season can foil those plans alone. It’s presented as a fool proof plan, but it really does not guarantee results at all. You’re not even guaranteed to be able to “tank” as we’ve seen.

It seemed very difficult to build more around Don/Rudy, especially after squandering every asset and chance we had over and over…But I don’t think people stopped and considered how hard it is to actually get to the point where you have players like Don/Rudy on your team at the same time and both locked into long term deals.

Who are these folks presenting tanking as a fool proof plan?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

In Texas… San Antonio. Visiting family and these games are way too late.

It's a rough life. Also going to be in SAS for a few hours

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

While this is true it most of the time needs just the guard lend him a ball and when he gives it back the guard is now more open bc defenses rn after Lauri. He does not need to have to do a lot with the ball just lending it once or twice in a possession opens up their game.

Also I wrote it wrong : I meant passes received - not touches. And it does not matter can he do sae things with ball like Jokic or Durant. Lauri does not need the ball as much before he is getting better at some things. But getting JUST 30 times the ball passed to teams best scorer and an all star is ludicrous. It is laughable. It is beyond dumb.

To me it’s more about Laurie making a higher percentage of the open looks that he’s getting and not getting blocked in the paint than anything.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

And to think that we had a brief window of opportunity where we could have turned Sexton and THT and a bad first into Brogdon. Pretty sure that that ship has sailed now.

 

[infection]

In Texas… San Antonio. Visiting family and these games are way too late.

 

[infection]

And to think that we had a brief window of opportunity where we could have turned Sexton and THT and a bad first into Brogdon. Pretty sure that that ship has sailed now.

That ship has sailed on both sides. The idea was to expend a first round pick to buoy a play-in roster into the playoffs, not a lottery roster into a play-in contender.

 

[sip]

And to think that we had a brief window of opportunity where we could have turned Sexton and THT and a bad first into Brogdon. Pretty sure that that ship has sailed now.

That would have been dumb. Brogdon does nothing but keep this team in mediocrity when a full rebuild is needed.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

That would have been dumb. Brogdon does nothing but keep this team in mediocrity when a full rebuild is needed.

Well he sure as frick kicked our a$$ last night!

 

[homeytennis]

Has the team quit on Hardy? I would argue they have viewing the results of the last two games. The Jazz weren't competitive in either one. If the team has quit, then Ainge has to take some corrective action now.