Obama supports Mosque

[Deleted member 365]

Obama explicitly refused to support or condemn building the mosque. He said our basic Constitutional freedoms required us to allow it to be built. I have seen no reasonable argument otherwise.

I'm not trying to say that it isn't constitutional. all I'm focusing on is this isn't going to score any points for approval. No one of significance agrees with the President on this one. I think this is going to hurt...

 

[Gameface]

I'm not trying to say that it isn't constitutional. all I'm focusing on is this isn't going to score any points for approval. No one of significance agrees with the President on this one. I think this is going to hurt...

So it's better to lie in order to make people happy than to stand behind the truth and on the side of what's right? Yeah, that'll score him big points. If only he would oppose the building of this mosque I would vote for him in 2012.

 

[Hopper]

So it's better to lie...

I don't never recommends lyin, my own damn self, eh, Game. Soon as ya start to lyin to the cops, who knows, they could prove ya wrong, then use yo lyin aginst ya, ya know? I just don't NEVER fess up, that's all.

 

[Deleted member 365]

So it's better to lie in order to make people happy than to stand behind the truth and on the side of what's right? Yeah, that'll score him big points. If only he would oppose the building of this mosque I would vote for him in 2012.

Uh? Who said anything about lying?

Do you really think that standing up for "freedom" and allowing that Mosque to be built will score him more points in the United States of America than if he told them no?

 

[Gameface]

Uh? Who said anything about lying?

Do you really think that standing up for "freedom" and allowing that Mosque to be built will score him more points in the United States of America than if he told them no?

Huh? The "truth" is that according to our constitution, according to what is "right" and according to the principles of freedom, liberty and religious tolerance, we shouldn't ban people from building religious structures on private property as long as it doesn't violate local ordinances or zoning requirements.

Besides that you seem to be terribly confused. Obama made a statement based on the principle that people can build any brand of religious institution on private property. The ability for this mosque to be built did not hinge on his approval. His comments were certainly related to the issue created by this particular mosque, but not related to his feelings about the building of this particular mosque. Again, Obama has no role in deciding if this mosque is built or not. He did not make a "decision" to allow it to be built. You understand that, right?

This may hurt his standing among simpletons and religious bigots. If that is what makes up the majority of voters then we have much worse problems than a moasque being built several blocks from the site of one of our nations greatest tragedies.

 

[colton]

Frankly, other than shock tactics, I've yet to see anyone explain why that mosque should not be built.

 

[KM32MVP]

I'd rather have a president say what he felt was right rather then what he felt would score him political points.

 

[Surely]

I don't understand why Obama felt the need to comment about this in the first place. He is starting to get a track record of speaking stupidly before he has the chance to think about what he is saying. To me it's not a matter of should the mosque be built or not. It's a matter of the president figuring out when to speak and when to hold his tongue. As the original poster said, what was the purpose behind speaking out in favor? For me personally it comes down to whether or not it is true that Muslims build mosques on places they have conquered. If that is true, then this is a very hurtful act towards those who lost loved ones in the attacks. If it's not true then build away.

 

[Marty McFly]

I agree - he shouldn't have said anything. He has other things to worry about that are far more important than where a place of worship is being built.

 

[candrew]

Uh? Who said anything about lying?

Do you really think that standing up for "freedom" and allowing that Mosque to be built will score him more points in the United States of America than if he told them no?

Score points with who?

Even if he drove down to NYC in a hard hat and oversaw the demolition of the mosque himself.....

The Birthers would still say he's not an American Citizen

The Tea Baggers will still say he's raising taxes on the middle class (when he hasn't)

The NRA will still say he's going to take your guns away (even when he's actually expanded the right to carry firearms)

The Deficit Hawks will still say he's carelessly spending (when they did the same thing under GWB and clearly would do the same if they were in charge today being this country is still on the brink of collapse)

I could go on...

 

[KM32MVP]

I agree - he shouldn't have said anything. He has other things to worry about that are far more important than where a place of worship is being built.

Obama's comment was more geared to the right to build the mosque anywhere that a church, synagogue or hindu temple could be built. Not speaking on the wisdom of doing so, rather the right to do so.

Personally, if anyone should be reinforcing our rights its the President. Nothing wrong with him speaking on this topic. Does it score political points? Probably not. Isn't it a bigger issue that we're concerned with politicians scoring points as opposed to doing or saying whats right?

 

[One Brow]

I agree - he shouldn't have said anything. He has other things to worry about that are far more important than where a place of worship is being built.

He has more important things to worry about than basic Constitutional freedoms? I respectfully disagree.