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Obama vs. Beantown

Beantown said:
Moe, do you agree for the push to have everyone view these relationships as "equal" or the same?....or do you believe it is better to recognize our differences and embrace them?
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First of all, I don't believe it's an "either - or" proposition. Furthermore, I categorically do not like the way you use the term "equal" in this sense - - no relationship of any sort is equal to any other relationship - - just like apples are not equal to oranges. They have similarities, they have differences - they may have equal nutritional value for some components, they may have equal size and weight in some cases, but that still doesn't make apples equal to oranges.

So I would say the best course of action is to recognize areas of similarity as well as areas where there are differences. It is not just one or the other.


As to N_A_O_S - maybe it should be New_Animosity_Old_Stupidity.
I'll just say that one of my peeves is when someone takes another's post, quotes it with their own changes and calls it "Fixed" Sometimes it's done with good humor and it's funny, but when it's done purely for the sake of animosity and derision, it's not so funny to me.


New_Anonymity_Old_Sage said:
...With respect to the issue of sexuality that means that we must throw away the general categories of "heterosexual" and "homosexual" because, logically speaking, that would be making this same error: the general category, or whole, subsumes the particular experience. In other words, there is no "heterosexual" and there is no "homosexual"; every body has different desires. You can imagine a spectrum ranging from hetero- to homo-sexual...
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But I will say that the points you make in your last post (quoted above) reflect my line of reasoning as well. I too believe that there is a spectrum, and I think it's difficult to know for sure how much cultural and societal norms influences our behaviors. I also think our knowledge on this subject is evolving (LOL) and it's difficult to predict what science may discover in the future.
 
moevillini said:
First of all, I don't believe it's an "either - or" proposition. Furthermore, I categorically do not like the way you use the term "equal" in this sense ...

As to N_A_O_S - maybe it should be New_Animosity_Old_Stupidity.
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Wow, Mo! You're really comin out swingin, these here days, eh? Just sayin whatcha thinks, and lettin da damn chips falls where they may, and all. Good work, Darlin!

By the way, I agrees witcha bout NAOS (eous), not that I don't agree bout nuthin else, just aint got nuthin to add, really. Mebbe knowin I agrees will make ya changes your mind about the poor boy, eh?
 
Bronco70 said:
That's a GREAT question!

I wish I had a quarter for every time you pledged an end to the futile exercise that is arguing with Beantown.

Seriously, life has more to offer...

You will learn.
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haha, I sat down to eat a snack, started browsing, and then couldn't help it.
I knew before I started typing that Beanturd was lost. If there is any value in my posts (which there needn't be, actually, beyond me getting ideas out) it will probably be through making Beanturd an example of tired religio-political views. That would be great, actually.

If he wants to keep going, now I've got all my troops lined up for the political issues. I'm guessing he will continue on his way: no substantive response to my points, just chugging along.
 
moevillini said:
As to N_A_O_S - maybe it should be New_Animosity_Old_Stupidity.
I'll just say that one of my peeves is when someone takes another's post, quotes it with their own changes and calls it "Fixed" Sometimes it's done with good humor and it's funny, but when it's done purely for the sake of animosity and derision, it's not so funny to me.
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What, now we have a problem? chill out, man.
 
Hopper said:
Wow, Mo! You're really comin out swingin, these here days, eh? Just sayin whatcha thinks, and lettin da damn chips falls where they may, and all. Good work, Darlin!

By the way, I agrees witcha bout NAOS (eous), not that I don't agree bout nuthin else, just aint got nuthin to add, really. Mebbe knowin I agrees will make ya changes your mind about the poor boy, eh?
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Just keep glomming onto every stupid thing that people say... it's starting to get genius, actually.
 
New_Anonymity_Old_Sage said:
No, man, i don't. It was you who called me N_Animosity_O_Stupidity.
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I think that was in response to you uncivil behavior. You might be able to get away with acting like that, but it sure doesn't lend any credibility to your claims of being highly educated.
 
It might be interestin to see the two most brilliant and highly educated posters, Kicky and Old Sage, git into a debate, eh, Game? A whole new approach to playin the dozens, I betcha!
 
Gameface said:
I think that was in response to you uncivil behavior. You might be able to get away with acting like that, but it sure doesn't lend any credibility to your claims of being highly educated.
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I've already apologized for being a dick in this thread. I'm just letting it loose now...
Take a look at my history if you want to, I'm not a dick that often. I think I picked on Hopper once, because he can be a bit grating, but I'm starting to come around on him. He's got guys like Clutch thinking he's not acting something out. In this case I'm picking on somebody whom I understand a lot better, and there won't be any profuse apology beyond the one I've already said. I don't get the sense that you've been too put out.
 
Hopper said:
It might be interestin to see the two most brilliant and highly educated posters, Kicky and Old Sage, git into a debate, eh, Game? A whole new approach to playin the dozens, I betcha!
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Isn't Kicky a lawyer? I don't do that. At all. He wins any day of the week if we wade into those waters.
 
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