Obamacare to increase premiums by 304 percent???

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Are you familiar with the healthcare system?

I don't know about other states but I am fairly certain you can't open a family practice in Utah if you're not a doctor. I remember a bill being proposed a few years ago to allow RN's to do this and get their own malpractice insurance. I thought it was a good idea and then I never heard anything more about it.

 

[LogGrad98]

I don't know about other states but I am fairly certain you can't open a family practice in Utah if you're not a doctor. I remember a bill being proposed a few years ago to allow RN's to do this and get their own malpractice insurance. I thought it was a good idea and then I never heard anything more about it.

PA would be an option maybe, but I have a hard time seeing a RN in that role.

 

[babe]

The only truly effective way to manage the cost of healthcare is through supply and demand. Right now the demand is too high and the supply is too low. We need to allow Rn's to open offices without direct supervision by a doctor and refer patients that are beyond their care to a P.H.D. As for the demand we need to increase the amount everyone pays out of pocket both those enrolled in medicaid and those who have private plans. We should make both a mandatory minimum deductible and copay based on your income(you would have to pay this before an insurer could pay anything)

I also think that we should have public ambulances ran by municipalities. The fire department does a superb job and I have little doubt that if they ran our ambulances they would do the same. This doesn't have to be done nationwide to have an impact. If Salt Lake county were to begin operating tax payer supported ambulances residents would see a decrease in their insurance premiums because some of the financial risk has been removed.

The State. . . . as well as cities and nations. . . . . is always going to prove incompetent. Individuals can be incompetent, too, but at least they are not all the same kind of incompetent. There should be no medical license requirement at all, just a public record of complaints against every "provider". And maybe about ten on-line "Lists" where somebody with a definite point of view is just free to say what he/she thinks of local providers, with people relating their experiences . . . . we'll figure out what works.

 

[babe]

I don't know about other states but I am fairly certain you can't open a family practice in Utah if you're not a doctor. I remember a bill being proposed a few years ago to allow RN's to do this and get their own malpractice insurance. I thought it was a good idea and then I never heard anything more about it.

We have nursing agencies working on contract with doctors and hospitals to give certain kinds of outpatient care. They will come to your home and clean the wounds from surgery, help patients manage with vacuum pacs that keep the healing areas drained, stuff like that.

In this day and age, you can send the actual caregivers to the patients, with cameras and laptops, and if the doctor in the main office needs to "see" the patient, he can see anything he needs to. Saves gas and oil and worn-out cars, makes the earth "green".

 

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I don't know about other states but I am fairly certain you can't open a family practice in Utah if you're not a doctor. I remember a bill being proposed a few years ago to allow RN's to do this and get their own malpractice insurance. I thought it was a good idea and then I never heard anything more about it.

I think you probably mean Physician's assistants and Nurse Practitioners. RN's running clinics would be a horrible social experiment. You can get a RN degree from stevens henager college. Not exactly the model of consistency when it comes to education.

Obamacare, the ACA, actually favors nurse practitioners and PA's opening their own practices. I know in Utah, that Nurse practitioners can have their own practice, and I do not think that PA's can at this point. Where I live in Idaho, my family's primary care doctor is a PA, and he has his own practice. He said that the ACA is VERY attractive to PAs and Nurse Practitioners, because they will have so much more job security. All states are moving towards primary care being in the hands of Nurse Practitioners and PA's, with MD's moving out of primary care, and specializing. I think this is the way it should be. We will save a lot of money on our personal healthcare this way.

 

[green]

Sever connections with Canada? So the US can axe its main oil, and water-resource for the coming years?

Yup, we all know that's never gonna happen. Gonna keep enjoying my healthcare and cheap education in the mean-time. Thanks Merica

No way. I want to sever connections with every country except for Mexico and Canada. I want to keep you guys happy because if there ever is an invasion, you guys are our buffer. I'd want to pull all foreign aid, but toss you two countries a little extra to take the brunt of any attack.

 

[green]

Who the **** is talking about WW1 here? Why are you putting words in my mouth? I'm talking about the last 20 years. For a reason, too. That's when the US became world's only superpower.

My argument is this. US involvement in all kids of places in the past 20 years has only served to widen and broaden the fighting. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Kosovo. In all those cases, the governments of those countries would have dealt with what was going on quickly and brutally. We're not debating the morality of it here.

I'm so sick of this argument. This is why I say pull completely out of the world, cut all funding, stay in the UN, but only match dollar for dollar the top contributor.

If we did those things, 6 months would pass by before the world would beg us for our money and military again.

 

[green]

I say pull all military out of the world, take a backseat role in the UN, tax every import at 30%, lower the business taxes down to 15%, and force corporations to bring manufacturing jobs back to America. Screw the rest of the world. Make it so expensive for Apple, Nike, etc to import parts for their products that they have to bring those jobs back. Make it so expensive to import products, and so cheap to work here, that companies move their headquarters to the US.

Instead of welfare for the masses, we would suddenly have jobs for the masses. What a novel concept.

Screw the rest of the world. I'm sick of propping them up, having them take my food and resources, and then having them tell me how awful I am.

 

[Stoked]

No way. I want to sever connections with every country except for Mexico and Canada. I want to keep you guys happy because if there ever is an invasion, you guys are our buffer. I'd want to pull all foreign aid, but toss you two countries a little extra to take the brunt of any attack.

Severing connections with everyone is overkill. I am not for pulling all foreign aid but I am for reviewing it and pulling anything that does not truly help us.

 

[moevillini]

I think you probably mean Physician's assistants and Nurse Practitioners. RN's running clinics would be a horrible social experiment. You can get a RN degree from stevens henager college. Not exactly the model of consistency when it comes to education.

Obamacare, the ACA, actually favors nurse practitioners and PA's opening their own practices. I know in Utah, that Nurse practitioners can have their own practice, and I do not think that PA's can at this point. Where I live in Idaho, my family's primary care doctor is a PA, and he has his own practice. He said that the ACA is VERY attractive to PAs and Nurse Practitioners, because they will have so much more job security. All states are moving towards primary care being in the hands of Nurse Practitioners and PA's, with MD's moving out of primary care, and specializing. I think this is the way it should be. We will save a lot of money on our personal healthcare this way.

let's be clear - in most states, nurses, PA's etc can open their own practices - - the question is what those practices are allowed to do without supervision by a licensed medical doctor.

 

[green]

let's be clear - in most states, nurses, PA's etc can open their own practices - - the question is what those practices are allowed to do without supervision by a licensed medical doctor.

This is where it gets so tricky. Everyone wants to have cheaper care and not see the Dr...until something goes wrong. Then they want to sue the Dr for everything he has. You can't have it both ways.

 

[♪alt13]

I think you probably mean Physician's assistants and Nurse Practitioners. RN's running clinics would be a horrible social experiment. You can get a RN degree from stevens henager college. Not exactly the model of consistency when it comes to education.

Obamacare, the ACA, actually favors nurse practitioners and PA's opening their own practices. I know in Utah, that Nurse practitioners can have their own practice, and I do not think that PA's can at this point. Where I live in Idaho, my family's primary care doctor is a PA, and he has his own practice. He said that the ACA is VERY attractive to PAs and Nurse Practitioners, because they will have so much more job security. All states are moving towards primary care being in the hands of Nurse Practitioners and PA's, with MD's moving out of primary care, and specializing. I think this is the way it should be. We will save a lot of money on our personal healthcare this way.

I may well be. I am not 100% on my medical acronyms but the core of the point stays the same an increased supply of medical practitioners should lead to more choices for consumers and competitive cost reduction. More financial support for those seeking medical training should help as well. I have heard that the nursing program at S.L.C.C. has a two year waiting list.It seems to me like a little funding to expand the program may be in order.