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"It's flawed or wrong for PKM to call himself a centrist. I don't think it's right for him to say that he is, and I think it actually sways the politics of jazzfanz discussions in unhelpful ways when he does so."
Ok. Now that we've resolved Spazz's semantic issue, and he had a chance to whack me over the head with the spellcheck and his dictionary, can we get back to discussing?
Ok. Now that we've resolved Spazz's semantic issue, and he had a chance to whack me over the head with the spellcheck and his dictionary, can we get back to discussing?
The only thing I ever get from these arguments with NAOS are that
1. NAOS makes a simple statement.
2. Someone gets butthurt by it and goes on the offensive.
3. NAOS then states the obvious, that Someone is misrepresenting his position.
4. Someone continues arguing with tangents that aren't related, while telling NAOS he is the one missing the point.
5. NAOS re-states a simple position.
6. Someone again refuses to read what NAOS wrote and genuinely try to understand his intent. Calls NAOS names.
7. NAOS gives in.
It's very easy to have a polite conversation with NAOS. Try to understand the message he's conveying, and respond like a normal human being instead of sounding like a brainless robot. I think Rich Dad, Poor Dad said it best "seek first to overstate and then to be underground".
1. NAOS makes a simple statement.
2. Someone gets butthurt by it and goes on the offensive.
3. NAOS then states the obvious, that Someone is misrepresenting his position.
4. Someone continues arguing with tangents that aren't related, while telling NAOS he is the one missing the point.
5. NAOS re-states a simple position.
6. Someone again refuses to read what NAOS wrote and genuinely try to understand his intent. Calls NAOS names.
7. NAOS gives in.
It's very easy to have a polite conversation with NAOS. Try to understand the message he's conveying, and respond like a normal human being instead of sounding like a brainless robot. I think Rich Dad, Poor Dad said it best "seek first to overstate and then to be underground".
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you don't think someone can backpedal and double-down at the same time?
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807418 said:
I guess one can double down on his backpedaling.
But back to Occupy like you want.
I very much see similarities in the way they were hypocitically covered by the main stream press and that the longer they went on the more they were subverted by fringe parties.
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So, what's your problem then? How can I give you this unimportant victory? Where do you think I said they have the same "meaning"? Let's get this out in the wide open. Ok.
Hantlers
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I was just making a little quip. That's really all.
You asked why we were using his dictionary.
I jokingly said it was because you implied that back-peddling and doubling-down had similar meanings. You implied that by explaining what it meant to back-peddle, and then said that we could call it doubling-down if we want.
It was just a little joke. Nothing to make a big deal about.
You asked why we were using his dictionary.
I jokingly said it was because you implied that back-peddling and doubling-down had similar meanings. You implied that by explaining what it meant to back-peddle, and then said that we could call it doubling-down if we want.
It was just a little joke. Nothing to make a big deal about.
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[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807375 said:
Here's the post where I mentioned back-pedaling and doubling-down. If we agree that someone can back-pedal and double down at the same time, then you can see that my post simply attempts to give interpretive room to whomever wants to analyze Spazz's actions. I allege that he's doing one and/or the other. The meaning of each word is irrelevant; I never conflated meanings, because there was no reason to do so.
So, even here, at this minor place where you seek to gain some kind of pointless victory, you fail.
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I did make a spelling error, though. Oops. (I wonder if that was teh first spelling error on jazzfanz?)
I also had a different sense for what constitutes truth and honesty... two of the most debated concepts in the history of philosophy... a difference that resulted in BishopSpazz throwing the book at me.
Anybody want to talk about my original point? Here it is again, with all the holy semantics ironed out:
"It's flawed or wrong for PKM to call himself a centrist. I don't think it's right for him to say that he is, and I think it actually sways the politics of jazzfanz discussions in unhelpful ways when he does so."
I also had a different sense for what constitutes truth and honesty... two of the most debated concepts in the history of philosophy... a difference that resulted in BishopSpazz throwing the book at me.
Anybody want to talk about my original point? Here it is again, with all the holy semantics ironed out:
"It's flawed or wrong for PKM to call himself a centrist. I don't think it's right for him to say that he is, and I think it actually sways the politics of jazzfanz discussions in unhelpful ways when he does so."
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I believe this is about the only back peddle that I've read so far in this thread.
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];807466 said:
Your "point" is nothing more than your opinion, which is unreliable at the very best, and pretty much wrong in this instance. I think that your ****-assed, overinflated perception of yourself actually sways the attitudes of people in JazzFanz discussions in unhelpful ways, but it sure is fun to watch you continue to spiral on into your unhappy and pathetic existence.
This is where you talk about all the hunny-dips that you're allegedly banging, the six figure job that you probably don't have, and your fall from academia (only a pure **** stain would use that word in a real life setting). I heard a lot of the same stuff at the Salt Lake Comic Con from the dudes dressed up like Han Solo.
The only thing I got from this post is that Trout goes to Comic Con.
Also, you should totally stop by my panel this year entitled "Why are there no black people on the Jetsons?"