framer
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Are they gonna play Zooropa? If so, you may need the shrooms. . .
Game Thread Oct 08, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz at Clippers (Preseason)
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I think it's important to recognize how long, athletic and defensively skilled guys like Paul George, Kawhi Leonard and Terrence Mann are, especially if your team doesn't match their pace and intensity, and you can't space the floor out past the 3pt line. They completely clogged the paint and shut off the Jazz's ball movement. Then they collapsed on our bigs when they tried to drive and establish themselves in the paint. I know that Sexton had moments that looked bad, but his game is predicated on driving and kicking, and he had nowhere to go against the Clips' defense. You can't compare the 1st half of the game with the 2nf half, when the Clippers' primary players were off the floor.
The biggest problems I saw were:
** No one is going to guard THT out on the perimeter. He had a couple makes from deep early, then bricked the rest of the night, save for an errant shot that banked in. The Clippers were backing way off and let him loft the ball at the rim all night. Other teams will disrespect his shooting like he's Westbrook, until he proves otherwise.
** I don't know what to do with John Collins. He looked like he had less shooting and self-creation that Rudy Gay did. I think you have to play him at the 5 next to Lauri and Olynyk and let him slash and post.
** Sexton is too small to defend NBA players who have more than a couple inches on him. This is partly why I would bring him off the bench and let him attack 2nd units.
** Regardless of the Jazz's guard rotation, they need someone on the wing to be a ball mover and glue guy. Olynyk did a fair amount of that last night, but the roster as a whole has a real lack of ball movement.
The biggest problems I saw were:
** No one is going to guard THT out on the perimeter. He had a couple makes from deep early, then bricked the rest of the night, save for an errant shot that banked in. The Clippers were backing way off and let him loft the ball at the rim all night. Other teams will disrespect his shooting like he's Westbrook, until he proves otherwise.
** I don't know what to do with John Collins. He looked like he had less shooting and self-creation that Rudy Gay did. I think you have to play him at the 5 next to Lauri and Olynyk and let him slash and post.
** Sexton is too small to defend NBA players who have more than a couple inches on him. This is partly why I would bring him off the bench and let him attack 2nd units.
** Regardless of the Jazz's guard rotation, they need someone on the wing to be a ball mover and glue guy. Olynyk did a fair amount of that last night, but the roster as a whole has a real lack of ball movement.
If it were me, I would start Clarkson (for scoring), Ochai (for 3D and athleticism), Lauri (for 3-level offense), Olynyk (for spacing and passing), and Kessler (for rim presence).
With the 2nd unit, I'd play Dunn, Keyonte, Collins, Yurtseven and either Samanic or Hendricks.
I'm not sure what to do with Fontecchio, Horton-Tucker or Sexton. I get that THT and Sexton can be disruptive and change-of-pace guys, but there needs to be some consistency. I honestly don't think the Jazz expected THT to opt in.
With the 2nd unit, I'd play Dunn, Keyonte, Collins, Yurtseven and either Samanic or Hendricks.
I'm not sure what to do with Fontecchio, Horton-Tucker or Sexton. I get that THT and Sexton can be disruptive and change-of-pace guys, but there needs to be some consistency. I honestly don't think the Jazz expected THT to opt in.
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Jaymz
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It was pretty exciting without it. But bring them. I wish I did. Alcohol buzz wares off waiting in lines
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Sexton i noticed before that alley oop to collins he raised his hand and pointed up. It’s an alley oop signal that shouldn’t be done ever at nba level.
Collins needs to play on a spaced floor with an elite playmaker, like Aaron Gordon playing off of Jokic. Collins is a play finisher who needs to be set up.
This is one of the things that baffles me about the trade. We have to build things around him, to some degree, for him to be successful. “Build around” may be too strong of a phrase, but we have to cater to it for it to be successful. But we have absolutely no business building around or catering to him and doing so is absolutely unnecessary. I’m not saying that we will, but if we don’t then the whole thing was kind of pointless. Not that we should. But it begs the question of why we made a pointless trade. I believe the realistic opportunity cost is larger than the realistic benefit of keeping him, whether in terms of acquired assets that he’s parlayed into or on-court value realized by us. Tasking Hardy with “hey, see how these pieces fit” also seems like a fruitless endeavor for an iteration that won’t be, or at least shouldn’t be, part of a long-term plan.
We did this trade because DA hates 2nd rd picks and Rudy gay
Imagine if we were obligated to give a bunch of minutes to Rudy Gay and “make things work.” We’re doing that with a rich man’s Rudy Gay. Obviously Collins is much younger and much better but the point stands.
cooldude32
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How expensive were the tickets?
Hearsky
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$650 a piece is what I paid a piece for two.
