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Game Thread Oct 23, 2024 07:00PM MT: Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz

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fishonjazz said:
No doubt.
I'm sure I do it plenty. Human nature.

What I doubt I will ever do is trash talk jazz players while they are having a career night. I never liked KO but when he was ballin I kept my trap shut.
I want Clarkson gone but he played great last night and I gave him plenty of credit during the game. Collins ain't my favorite but holy crap he was tough against Edey.

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Fans can fan how they want to. It's annoying sometimes, but nothing you can do about it. The game threads are the worst threads on Jazzfanz, and sometimes I just have to ignore them.

I personally think it's fine to point out negatives, even when a player is generally positive, but you are right that when a poster isn't balanced in their feedback it comes off as hating.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I don't think Memphis looks that great, I wouldn't peg them as a playoff team yet. They are relying a lot on unproven players in Edey, Wells, and Pippen Jr. I like all 3 of those players, but they will have growing pains this year.

I'm guessing there are some Edey doubters using this game as evidence they were right. He wasn't able to stay on the court and the defense was awful with him in the game. If you paid attention, however, you could see how much attention he was getting and how much that opened up shots for his teammates. The one truly concerning thing, in my opinion, was that Ja does not seem to like him. At the very least Ja does not want to give him the ball in the post. Memphis is probably better staggering their minutes and letting Edey eat in the second unit for now.
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Very much this. I was laughing that he didn't get it in the post especially after they had been tangled up several times. Would have been an auto foul and two free throws.

Memphis I would be a bit concerned. JJJ and Williams would help a bunch and Clarke needs to find his legs again... but the most concerning things for me would be Smart looks like dog ****. Maybe he works his way into shape but he was rough. The other is Ja seems a bit too interested in basking in the glow of his own greatness at times. Go ahead and talk yo **** but if the ball is live maybe work your way back on defense while you do it. Key got free throws cuz you wanted to celebrate with like a minute left in the game.

I actually love Pippen and think he might be more productive than Smart if last night was an indicator. Wells and Edey made a bunch of dumb mistakes/fouls that cost em. They will clean that up tho I'm guessing.
 
Game threads are for the game. I think people get way to upset when you're saying something about the game and then they think it's about the entirety of that player's existence. Like if we point out that Key did something bad, it's not a statement on his entire future as a whole. On the other hand, I definitely think people try hard to push their agendas no matter what. It's definitely annoying when people try so hard to inject an agenda into a game thread. That's not just a game thread thing though, it's everywhere. The game thread (during the game) is about the game and not always about a larger opinion.
 
fishonjazz said:
One thing about keyonte is that he has proven to me that his long range floater push shot thing (long range as in a few feet farther away from the basket than most floaters) he does is usually money. I think he attempted about 4 of those shots and they missed. I don't think that happens again all season. That's his move and it's damn near unguardable.

Last night was just one of those off nights that happen on occasion to everyone.

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I agree that Key's floater is relatively good, but I really think he needs to lean on his foul baiting ability more often. Even when you're good at them, it's still not necessarily a great shot. On nights like last night, I think Key shys away from his 3 ball...which is somewhat understandable when you're struggling so bad. But it lead to a million floaters and mid range shots which makes these bad nights even worse imo. He ended up getting 9 FT's which is great, but a bunch of them came at the end in junky situations. Should have turned to that more early and often when things aren't going his way. Refs were calling everything last night. Could have been a 15 FT kind of night if he was more savvy.
 
KqWIN said:
Hendricks and Kessler are for sure confidence players. A couple things go right and everything starts happening. But if things don’t go as planned you might just not see them all night. They were both great yesterday.

It was kind of impossible to play good defense last night bc everything was a foul and both teams shot it decently, but I thought those two were really good.
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Dudes are petrified that they're gonna get benched for John Collins or Clarkson with one bad. mistake
 
Watched, entertained, ultimately a little disappointed. Free throw shooting down the stretch killed us, as well as an epic brain fart by George. Definitely on schedule as far as I can tell.
 
YoungJefe said:
Need to see the young guys be more aggressive.

Hendricks / Cody / Sensabaugh = 9 FGA
Clarkson = 16 FGA

Ain't no reason he should putting up almost double the FGA as those three combined lol
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That's because Clarkson can create his own shot, while Hendricks and Cody cannot.
 
HermanG said:
There is a group of posters who want to bash him whenever they can. Its the same guys every time.

Seems to me like they dislike his brand of basketball too much to root for the guy. Its definitely poorly founded to constantly jump on a 20 year old who plays as well as Key and who also gets a lot of hype/trust from the coach and vast majority of fanbase and media.

But it is what it is.
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Brand or not, last night was a pretty poor showing. He 100% helped the tank which I loved. Give me that brand for 1 solid year and turn the corner next season.
 
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