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The deals I keep coming back to are Ben Simmons for Collins and Clarkson or Ball for one of them. I think Ben is basically done as a player, but I've come around on just playing him and if he derails the season they it fits the tank. If he has some miracle then maybe you've found something. I can see the Nets doing it in preparation for courting Donny. Collins and JC are simpatico with him... Simmons is not obvi. Most likely it removes some production from our lineup, adds more losses, and cleans the cap completely for next year.
 
Proposed trade on bleacher report

The trade: Brandon Clarke, John Konchar, Ziaire Williams and the No. 39 pick to the Utah Jazz for John Collins
 
Another proposed trade

The trade: John Collins, the No. 29 pick and the No. 32 pick to the Miami Heat for Duncan Robinson and Caleb Martin

It made sense for the Jazz to acquire Collins for dirt cheap last summer. However, it became clear early on that he was unlikely to have a lengthy future in Utah. He just doesn't offer the volume shooting or defensive versatility that would help him fit with this core.

Utah should be (and probably is) seeking out alternatives, and this would be an intriguing one. Maybe a late first-round pick and early second-rounder feels a bit rich for a pair of role players, but this Jazz roster doesn't need three more rookies. What it could use is more shooting and better two-way play on the wing, and this package checks both boxes.

Robinson is an elite outside shooter who just averaged more than 2.5 triples on 37-plus percent shooting for the fourth time in five seasons. He's overpaid, but so is Collins, so the Jazz might opt for the cleaner fit. Especially if it meant getting Martin, a relentless worker on both ends who's shown flashes of high-end shot-making.

Martin would have to pick up his below-market $7.1 million player option for this deal to work, but maybe he'd do so with the promise of getting a long-term extension down the road.
 
Chargers Jazz Angels said:
Another proposed trade

The trade: John Collins, the No. 29 pick and the No. 32 pick to the Miami Heat for Duncan Robinson and Caleb Martin

It made sense for the Jazz to acquire Collins for dirt cheap last summer. However, it became clear early on that he was unlikely to have a lengthy future in Utah. He just doesn't offer the volume shooting or defensive versatility that would help him fit with this core.

Utah should be (and probably is) seeking out alternatives, and this would be an intriguing one. Maybe a late first-round pick and early second-rounder feels a bit rich for a pair of role players, but this Jazz roster doesn't need three more rookies. What it could use is more shooting and better two-way play on the wing, and this package checks both boxes.

Robinson is an elite outside shooter who just averaged more than 2.5 triples on 37-plus percent shooting for the fourth time in five seasons. He's overpaid, but so is Collins, so the Jazz might opt for the cleaner fit. Especially if it meant getting Martin, a relentless worker on both ends who's shown flashes of high-end shot-making.

Martin would have to pick up his below-market $7.1 million player option for this deal to work, but maybe he'd do so with the promise of getting a long-term extension down the road.
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Yeah nah. Also Martin will opt out for sure.
 
Chargers Jazz Angels said:
Proposed trade on bleacher report

The trade: Brandon Clarke, John Konchar, Ziaire Williams and the No. 39 pick to the Utah Jazz for John Collins
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Not sure why they do that but I am game.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not sure why they do that but I am game.
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This is the one I liked also. Clarke is coming back from an achilles injury so he may never be what he was. Williams has been a bust. Konchar is a throw in. Jazz really font need another pick in this draft not to mention a second rounder.

I think it is a good move for both teams.
 
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