Off-Season Rumblings
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baka98
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so.... what are you trying to say?
Jaanipoeg
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Very interesting, crazy Giddey is still 21 after the rollercoaster it's felt like
Karl Malone's history is disgusting, and truly messed up, and if we traded for Giddey the media around it would be exhausting drawing comparisons. And I am not an expert on the topic so please correct me, but I honestly feel a bit bad for Giddey with it all. From my understanding he slept with a girl who he met at an 18+ club who ended up being under age. It seems a sucky way to have your reputation torpedo'd. I mean he was barely 21 when it happened, that's a way less problematic gap than most celebrities (assuming she was 18 at least which would be a fair assumption at an 18+ club).
Hopefully he bounces back next season
Thee Jazz Fan
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I don’t ever remember hearing a peep about this from the media the entire time Malone played here
We have no idea when any of the Giddey stuff happened. Because nothing concrete was ever explained. It's a non issue and not really comparable to Malone at all
(If these guys are really available and the Jazz have interest), the gap between the price is likely to be much higher than the gap between the quality.
Secondarily, if we go after a do-it-all big playmaker type, I think there's some advantage to go with the lower usage one if they're both distinctly below average (and nearly equal) in TS%.
(Just speaking of player quality.)
I watched a lot of the Pistons this year and Cade is a very good player, but miscast as a franchise #1 option, when he should really be a role player. I'm not sure how much of his high usage/low efficiency was due to his supporting cast and out of necessity vs him wanting to be the guy. My feeling when watching was it was out of necessity, so I would be ok with the Jazz making a run at him, but no idea why Detroit would do that. I'm not sure what I would be willing to give up, but probably not enough for Detroit to even consider it.
I'm warming up to the idea of Giddey based on the numbers I provided earlier in this thread. For those that missed it, he is a huge positive on offense, helps the offense to move the ball when he is on the court, and it actually outweighs his negative effect on defense. I don't love weighing in on things that I don't know the details, but I think the most logical explanation for what happened with the underage girl is that she lied about her age and he didn't know. It's difficult for me to overcome my biases against Giddey, and so I'm still not there as far as the Jazz going after him, but I'm more open to it than I have been in the past.
I'm warming up to the idea of Giddey based on the numbers I provided earlier in this thread. For those that missed it, he is a huge positive on offense, helps the offense to move the ball when he is on the court, and it actually outweighs his negative effect on defense. I don't love weighing in on things that I don't know the details, but I think the most logical explanation for what happened with the underage girl is that she lied about her age and he didn't know. It's difficult for me to overcome my biases against Giddey, and so I'm still not there as far as the Jazz going after him, but I'm more open to it than I have been in the past.
Bruh cmon Cade is not a role player
Role player is probably not the right word, but wasn't sure how best to describe what I think his ideal role is. I think he can be a high level starter, but I don't want his usage to be nearly as high as it has been.
He should have high usage, he's a point guard. He just needs better spacing and players to pass to. Also needs someone next to him that can create for him a bit so he can be a more efficient 3pt shooter.
I don't think he's capable of consistently creating easy shots for himself or hitting difficult shots when defenses focus on him. This is why I don't think he can be your highest usage player on your team. He should obviously look much better next to better players, everyone should.