Offer Bledsoe a huge deal on July 1st

[Stifle Tower]

I think the max is too much for bledsoe (especially with trey and alec in the roster for much cheaper and a chance to draft smart or exum) and even though we have the money to spend, i still think we should be smart with it and only pay guys what they deserve

Trey is not a franchise player and neither is Burks. Bledsoe is an alpha dog. That's quite the guard rotation with those three. Of course, if Bledsoe DID sign an offer sheet (unlikely) and Phoenix didn't match (also unlikely), that means either Hayward shifts to SF full-time or we just let him go. As silesian said, it's game theory. Bledsoe may not even WANT to play in Utah. But his agent tells Phoenix he has a MAX offer on the table, forcing Phoenix to either cough up a ton of money, or call Beldsoe's bluff, make him sign the Utah offer and then either match or decline.

What I do find interesting is Lindsey said in an interview that the Jazz had enough room to give Hayward a substantial raise and STILL have a MAX slot available if they found that player and he agreed to sign. That only works THIS summer. After that, cap space is eaten up by holds for Burks and Kanter plus the contracts given to Favors and Hayward (if he re-signs). Jazz could still be under the cap, but not enough to offer a MAX contract.

 

[fishonjazz]

Of course, if Bledsoe DID sign an offer sheet (unlikely) and Phoenix didn't match (also unlikely), that means we would be overpaying him

Fixed.

I dont want to overpay dudes

 

[fishonjazz]

If i am overpaying..... then im overpaying a scoring machine or a great defensive big.

I dont want to overpay a tweener that a year ago was talked about being traded for millsap and then missed half the year with a knee injury and has never really proven himself in the league.

Thats just me though..... it would be risky to offer him a max deal, but it could pay off.... maybe he will be a star.
Big risk though

 

[Sexual Favors]

Minus the knees, I really like Bledsoe for our team. He brings the pace we need, and the defense we need at the point. Hayward and Bledsoe is more than enough on the playmaking side of things.

 

[♪alt13]

We don't have to worry about PHX.(partially because of bledsoe) WE have to worry about boston. Boston is the most likely to throw money at Hayward imo.

 

[Sexual Favors]

We don't have to worry about PHX.(partially because of bledsoe) WE have to worry about boston. Boston is the most likely to throw money at Hayward imo.

Agreed, and so it doesn't hurt to have some quality players in mind to fill that potential absebce. With or without Hayward, a healthy Bledsoe is perfect for our team.

 

[fishonjazz]

With or without Hayward, a healthy Bledsoe is perfect for our team.

At what price?
Would he be perfect for our team at 17 million per year? 15 million?

I really like bledsoe but we do have burks and trey so i dont know if i would want to pay bledsoe a max contract when he is not a big need on our team and we dont even know if he will ever be an all star in the nba.

He might not end up even being better that burks or trey in a couple years. Bledsoe has not really done anything in the nba. He has been a starter for half of one season, and never been an all star or anything.
Big risk to offer him a max deal like i have been hearing we should

 

[fishonjazz]

Here is what DL should do doe:

Let hayward walk
Dont overpay a dude like bledsoe
Trade kanter, trey, and GS pick for westbrook (throw in a future first if we must)
Sign Lebron in free agency
Trade Burks, Gobert, and the rights to Tomic for Bradley Beal (throw in john lucas the 3rd if we must)
Grab Thibidoe after he is fired from the bulls for losing in the first round
Win the lottery and draft Wiggins

Starting lineup of:
Westbrook
Beal
Wiggins
Lebron
Favors
With thibidoe coaching them, that would be a nightmare of a defensive team

Who is on board with this team?
If DL doesn't do these things that i suggested then he sux. Plain and simple.

 

[Sexual Favors]

At what price?
Would he be perfect for our team at 17 million per year? 15 million?

I really like bledsoe but we do have burks and trey so i dont know if i would want to pay bledsoe a max contract when he is not a big need on our team and we dont even know if he will ever be an all star in the nba.

He might not end up even being better that burks or trey in a couple years. Bledsoe has not really done anything in the nba. He has been a starter for half of one season, and never been an all star or anything.
Big risk to offer him a max deal like i have been hearing we should

All good points, but I don't think Bledsoe is eligible to 17 mil a year. He mad 2.6 mil this year off of a 4 year 7.6 or something mil deal.

As for having alec and Trey, Alec is a 2 guard who hasn't shown the willingness to consistently play D, and Trey has raised some serious questions about whether he will ever be able to. I really like Burks and think he'll mature in that regard. if I am the Jazz and I see Bledsoe available at a good price, I swoop in--regardless of Trey. In all honesty, Trey's career up to this point (college included) has illustrated how he doesn't fill the role our team needs. He's a half court PG who plays at a slow pace and can't defend. Bledsoe plays at a fast pace and can defend. At this juncture, the Jazz aren't using there two greatest strengths: altitude, and athleticism.

Does someone know what the max for Bledsoe could be?

Phoenix will likely match whatever, but they may also be open to a trade after matching. I nominate Trey as part of that. Afterall, they have Frye to worry about as well this year, and Dragic, Gerald Green, and the Morris twins the year after. They have room, but they also have some big decisions on the horizon, and they were succesfull w/o Bledsoe as well this year.

 

[fishonjazz]

if I am the Jazz and I see Bledsoe available at a good price, I swoop in--regardless of Trey.

I agree 100%
I would love to be able to watch bledsoe on the jazz.
Dude is a physical athletic freak.

I want to know what the "max" for bledsoe would be as well

 

[BTP]

All good points, but I don't think Bledsoe is eligible to 17 mil a year. He mad 2.6 mil this year off of a 4 year 7.6 or something mil deal.

He's eligible to get a contract that's about 25% of the salary cap of next year with 7.5% raises for 5 years if the franchise player rule is executed.
Right now the forecast is $63M cap with a $77M luxury tax threshold. 25% of 63 is 15.75 in his first year. This would end up being a $91.5M contract worth $21M in his final year.
Imagine how ****ty it's going to be for the Pacers with the Paul George close to max extension under the Derrick Rose provision.

 

[fishonjazz]

15.75 in his first year. This would end up being a $91.5M contract worth $21M in his final year.

I like bledsoe, but **** that.