Offer Middleton the Max and then Trade Burks, 12th pick and GSW '17 pick for top 6 pick.

[silesian]

Utah was hoping to sign Hayward for less than the max.

Milwaukee knows with the cap rising, that Middleton will get the max.

What will happen:

12:01 ET, Milwaukee calls Middleton's agent and says, here is the most we can offer. His agent will say, "OK."

Maybe, MAYBE, they try to negotiate for a PO after two years. Maybe they push for another year. BUT, they most likely won't talk to any other teams.

There's even less of a chance Leonard and Butler make it that far.

What's most likely is that all three players are on vacation, the calls are made at 12:01 ET, and the agent calls the player at 2 pm the next day to set up a time to sign the deal when the player returns from vacation.

If Middleton believes he can get a new max next year, why would he sign an old max this year and forego $5m per year?

 

[framer]

If Middleton believes he can get a new max next year, why would he sign an old max this year and forego $5m per year?

Middleton would be wise to sign a max offer if it comes this year. He isn't really worth 20 million and the free agent competition will be a lot heavier next year.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

You want to discuss how bad this thread is? Well if you insist...


Terrible thread, terrible opinions, just stop.

 

[franklin]

How much of Middleton Max talk is a good player on a bad team?

 

[Jeffrey32]

I think the Bucks traded Brandon Knight, so they have room to offer Middleton a big contract. I think they see their core threesome a Giannis, Kris, and Jabari. Ultimately Giannis and Jabari may not be able to play together long term since they're both natural SFs, but either will net a big piece in a trade.

 

[Batman]

How much of Middleton Max talk is a good player on a bad team?

I think the fact that he's efficient kind of brings down that argument. He's certainly not a good stats bad team guy. Those guys are inefficient or have some huge hole in their game (Like Kanters pick and roll defense.)

Plus, the advanced analytics make Middleton look like he's part God (Part Hayward, essentially).

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Bucks aren't even a bad team...

 

[silesian]

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Terrible thread, terrible opinions, just stop.

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[freakazoid]

I wish more posters here would make an effort to understand what's happening with the cap over the next few years. Zero chance of adding a player like Middleton, Butler or Leonard. Their current teams will not so much as blink at matching any offer, considering what those kinds of players will cost after next year. Having said that, IF we did have any chance whatsoever at adding that kind of talent, there's no question we should do it before the cap jumps. Forget the potential logjam concerns. Utah needs to be very aggressive this offseason, because the landscape is about to change dramatically. Now is not the time to stand pat, because player values are about to jump significantly. I expect this offseason to be more exciting than a lot of fans might think.

I think you are misreading the dynamic this summer by assuming that the landscape will change AFTER the salary cap goes up. The landscape will change BEFORE the salary cap goes up. You seem to be saying that teams have an advantage to sign players before the salary cap goes up. .

No, I'm not misreading anything. Of course GMs have already been adjusting for the expected jump, but they still have to work under the current cap. Starting next year, everything changes because almost everybody will have more money to spend, and the same story for the year after. Opportunities are obviously already limited, but the situation only gets worse, which is why standing pat is not a wise strategy. Utah may very well stand pat for the most part, but it won't be because that's the plan, it will be they simply can't find the right opportunity. Just the same, it is without a doubt to our advantage to add assets NOW if the opportunity is there.